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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here we are gene and Chris on the power

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cast but as you hear the show on the

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very same day this show is being

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broadcast we will probably be in

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Fountain Hills Arizona at the

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International UFO Congress trying to

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score up a few interviews with some of

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the guests yeah we're gonna have some

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fun oh yeah we're gonna rock and roll

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and do all sorts of wacky stuff or maybe

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not depending on your point of view the

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thing is I look at the list of speakers

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for this year and for the most part it's

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much much better than the previous year

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evidently they got the message over

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there yeah but I've been banned from the

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building I don't know if many of our

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listeners will recall but after last

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year's Congress I went ahead and did a

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WTF editorial about the list of speakers

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and some of the goings ons and boy I'll

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tell you I was I was just being honest

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and I was taken to task for that so I'll

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be a little bit more diplomatic this

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year are sure you will yes I agree you

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will be well they must they must have

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read the writing on the wall or the

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writing on the editorial because boy

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I'll tell you they have a much better

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lineup this year that's on par with

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first year that open minds took over the

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show and event and I must doff my hat to

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them they have a very good lineup this

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year I'm looking forward to to going and

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rubbing elbows with with some folks and

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hopefully learning something Paul

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Stonehill is someone that I think hasn't

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gotten the kind of notoriety and

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deserves more people knowing about his

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work as it relates to UFO events in

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Russia he's someone that I'm really

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looking forward to finally meeting and

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finding out about some of the really

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cases that are being reported over there

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but don't really make it out into the

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mainstream I was looking over the list

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about half of these people have been on

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the power cast one or more times others

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we should get on the power cast and some

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I look forward to meeting so we'll have

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some interesting stuff in the meantime

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last week we had an interesting

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discussion that we have to talk about

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with our d6 killer Clarke and she was

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talking about encounters with Starr

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people and it was about UFOs seen by

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Native Americans except in this

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particular situation as you listeners

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recall there were no names locations

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were expressed if at all very generally

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in a few cases maybe we heard about the

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professions of the witnesses and I

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understand that I understand that you

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want to keep confidentiality if people

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tell you something with the promise you

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will not reveal their names or specific

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identifying information that's a good

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thing to do we want to respect the

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confidences we'd like to do that in the

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UFO field some people don't believe that

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however the problem is here is that when

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you try to sum it all up what's going on

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you get the silly meme that well there's

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started people to have a federation

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where they have a non interference

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policy with earthlings

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and yet all we're hearing about is

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interference it's like they have their

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own policies but they don't obey them

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good point

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this is advanced beings now understand

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humans were primitive right so if we

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don't listen to anybody and we don't

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that's understandable with primitive for

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savages but we have this advanced race

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or many races of godlike beings that are

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found throughout the galaxy and to a

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person I won't call the men or women

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whatever they are to a person they have

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this philosophy of non-interference just

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like the philosophy of Star Trek

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you know don't interfere in the affairs

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of lesser planets or that's where I

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think the selenite directive the prime

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directive okay so they have their own

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prime directive except they ignore it

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now we understand on the Star Trek TV

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show it's a TV show so

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they ignore the prime directive whenever

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Captain Kirk saw a pretty girl you know

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sees a pretty girl the prime directive

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goes out the window

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he's gotta make it with her but here we

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have the star people highly advanced

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people and their prime directive

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assuming it exists they don't follow and

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how do we know it exists because they

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tell us so and the other question that

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comes in my mind why believe them

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because they're more advanced than we

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are so someone comes down to Flying

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Saucer and he says I'm from the Pleiades

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or I'm from Alpha Centauri or I'm from

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the center of the earth okay tell me

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another story why should I believe them

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yeah you know I totally agree with what

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you're saying and and I think you're

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bringing up some very good points you

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know it kind of makes you scratch your

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head and wonder you know is it worth

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spending all this time interviewing all

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these people when basically all you're

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doing is contributing to I don't know a

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sense of folklore you know I don't

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really get a sense from reading the book

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and from talking to already that we we

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really have advanced our knowledge

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basically what we're doing it would

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appear at least on the surface that

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we're we're just solidifying some of the

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preconceptions that people already have

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about this whole field and and I'm not

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sure if that's a good thing

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III think it's important for indigenous

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peoples in this case American Indians to

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feel confident enough and comfortable

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enough to come forward and tell their

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stories but without some data points

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without some you know some follow-up I'm

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just not I think it's just more spinning

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the wheels don't you it makes for good

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stories you know maybe it's a coffee

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table kind of book you know you sit back

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you want to read a couple of cool

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stories and you enjoy it and you put the

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book down and it's light reading you

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know light reading it's like going to

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what they used to say you go to a

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Chinese restaurant and you have a meal

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and you feel hungry an hour later and

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your jaw itches from MSG it's that what

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does to you my wife gets headaches from

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MSG well you know I again I really do

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applaud

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the amount of effort obviously in energy

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and the time that it took to compile

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these stories I mean her jaw-dropping

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figure of nine hundred interviews boy

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that you know she's been working on this

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for a long time but but did you really

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learn anything new

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Jane from the book and from speaking

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with her or did it just kind of just

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give you a new version of things that

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we've been hearing for decades as we say

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empty calories well I do applaud her

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efforts and you know I'm glad that she

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took the time to to do the book and come

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on the show and you know it's like for

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the first half of an investigation so

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you collect the stories you collect the

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information and then you come back and

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you do the follow-ups but in this case

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there will be no follow-ups unless one

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of these individuals chooses to come

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forth with their information so we can

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explore it then she made one comment

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there that I caught I guess about

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hypnotic regression saying we're

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implying that it was an accurate means

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of getting information which we kind of

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know is not true why but she also did

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state that that all these stories were I

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think conscious recollections by the

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witnesses that none of these stories

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were retrieved through some sort of

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hypnotic regression so she is good at

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least it's a first-person remembrance in

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any case let's go to our guest today and

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our guest today as you hear him he will

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actually be in Arizona to speak before

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the International UFO Congress isn't

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that strange

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another time dilation theory yeah I'm

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really looking forward to to having John

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Greenwald on the show he's someone I've

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been a big fan his ever since he was a

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teenager which wasn't that long ago he

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entered into this field in the mid 90s

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as a 14 15 year old has accomplished

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some amazing things in 20 years he's you

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know really compiled I think the largest

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repository of Freedom Information Act

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request data the black vault is an

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iconic presence on the net in the field

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have you followed

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and it's long overdue that we should

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have John Greenwald on the show he's

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he's very knowledgeable and I think is a

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leading light of the younger generation

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getting involved in this subject and

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what's more we have about two dozen

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questions from our listeners as posted

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in forum about the para caste come under

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the question Bank we'll try to get to a

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lot of them we may not get to all of

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them but all this and more is coming and

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meantime if you have a comment or

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question about the show please do write

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again new is at the para cast come or

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join our forums at forum dot the para

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coming up next you're in the para cast

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attack of the rock ODEs has been

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intense dreams about a beautiful woman

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pleading for his help after a terrible

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a telepathic love affair with a woman

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para cast comm you know we mentioned on

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a previous segment of the power cast of

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Jane and Chris that John Greenwald jr.

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has never been on the para cast guess

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what we lied he was on the show back in

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2007 august 2007 and the reason that

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neither of us remembered is because we

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are collectively about 12 times older

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then john is and the gray matter you

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know we're suffering from as william

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shatner said in the TV show Boston Legal

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we're suffering from the Mad Cow and

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therefore we don't remember anything

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in fact I have no idea where I am right

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now Chris where are you right here at

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gene but he doesn't know we're here is

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it's just a place he used to be but I

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don't I get that seriously speaking John

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Greenwald of the black Fault is joining

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us and the black fault as those of you

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who heard the episode over six years ago

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will recall is a monumental achievement

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and this guy has done some really really

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incredible things in the UFO field by

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putting this together so maybe to bring

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listeners up-to-date about this explain

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what the black fall is all about John

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and how you came to get this thing

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started

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absolutely well first off thank you very

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much for having me on the show again

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it's it is good to be back and just to

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kind of give you the rough overview of

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what the black vault is it is a

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culmination of US government documents

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that I've collected under the Freedom of

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Information Act so in short what I've

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done is I've taken literally over

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600,000 pages of material that I've

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collected in the last 16 years and

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scanned it all and put it online on to

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the internet for anybody to download for

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free

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now obviously the UFO topic has always

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been number one that's always been the

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most popular because in my opinion is

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really the most fascinating topic when

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it comes to government secrets so the

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black belt is this culmination of

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government documents and what I wanted

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to do is archive the material not only

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on the UFO topic which has been the most

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I would say popular since day one

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because let's face it that is the most

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fascinating but I've archived material

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on all sorts of different topics like

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the JFK assassination nuclear biological

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weapons secrets and so on so I've

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literally filed about four thousand

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Freedom of Information Act requests in

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the past 16 years and the black vault is

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the culmination of that research so in a

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nutshell that's so that's the what the

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website is John how long did it take to

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catalogue all those documents how much

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of the 16 years did you consume with a

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scanning process that's a tough question

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to answer I'm not real sure on the the

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right answer on that you know sometimes

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I I know it's you know well into the

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thousands and thousands of hours but how

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many III your guess is as good as mine I

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really don't know it's been quite a ride

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though I'll tell you that much you have

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a day job I hope absolutely I have a

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couple of them with this economy to try

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and survive I do but I've worked in

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television for quite some time now about

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seven eight years we just wrapped a show

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that is airing in syndication throughout

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the United States and now the world

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which I'm excited to hear about can you

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tell us what the shows about

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absolutely it's called unsealed it's

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kind of a series where they have two

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different versions one is called

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unsealed alien files and one is called

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unsealed conspiracy files and I was a

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consulting producer on the show and I

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helped put a lot of the stories together

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and figure out what the show was and so

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it's been airing here in Los Angeles

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it's KTLA but that's a syndicated

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network so depending upon where you are

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in the United States you'll have to

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check the website unsealed files.com

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and it will break down where it airs in

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your area but that that's the show that

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we just wrapped it's still in season one

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we're hoping for a season two but

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with entertainment and television you

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never know if it's gonna get picked up

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again let me be the first one to say you

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know I really enjoy the show I think for

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for people even with you know a fairly

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sophisticated knowledge about these

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subject areas that there's there's a

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wonderful pearls of information there's

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new stuff in there

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every episode that I've seen which has

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it hasn't been that many three or four

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I've learned something new I think you

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do a very good job as one of the sort of

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experts that they kind of rely on to put

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put the subjects in context and and bill

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burns actually does a good job as well

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and you know I really I really have

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enjoyed watching it and I'm sure you

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know I don't predict but or prophesize

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but I'm I'm pretty pretty sure that you

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guys are gonna be signed to multiple

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seasons if you keep up the good work

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well I appreciate that that means a lot

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to me I hope so too the producers do a

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phenomenal job over there the executive

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and the the supervising producers they

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do a great job putting it together my

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job obviously was a consultant and

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helping them put together the stories

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and figuring out the different experts

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that they could talk to and you know for

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the record I did not write myself in or

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say hey you should interview me that

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actually was their decision so I didn't

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wanted to just seem that I was just

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putting myself in the show but I did

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appreciate the kind words and I'll

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definitely pass it on to the production

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staff you know we're looking at your

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credits over here at the Internet Movie

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Database mm-hmm okay

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so we know all about you we know when

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you were born we know where you were

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born we don't know what you're doing

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right now but you also produce a

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documentary called secrets of the

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Freemasons in 2006 that's correct yes

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what do we need to know about the

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Freemasons other than just a bunch of

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old men getting together and being wacky

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you want to know my honest opinion they

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are an amazing group of people and I

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could end it there and be happy with it

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I really honestly truly believe that

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here's a slightly longer answer for you

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is that when I when I created that show

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and we put together the story concept we

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were exploring just about the secrets of

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the Freemasons

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and when I talk to the network National

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Geographic Channel when I talked to my

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executives I told them I said you know

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to do this right we need to get the

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Freemasons involved because let them

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have a word if there really is a secret

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or if there really is a conspiracy and

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it's true well okay great but let's have

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them get their say in there and make

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this make this real and and pretty much

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everybody laughed at me they said well

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you know you're doing a show called

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secrets of the Freemasons good luck you

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know they're they'll never happen sure

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enough it took weeks but I called select

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few people that were high up in the

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organization and kind of worked my way

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through and told them what we were doing

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and was honest and open with them and

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got them involved and that's exactly

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what they did they came aboard they

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dealt with the secrets they were very

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good sports about it of course some of

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it was laughable to them and other

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secrets you know they just didn't want

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to talk about that doesn't mean that

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there was a big conspiracy but they just

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chose not to talk about it so you know

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in the short answer is they really are

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an amazing group of people how far and

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deep the conspiracy and secrets go well

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you know they have their secrets they're

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a fraternal organization just like any

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fraternity at a college they have their

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secrets but again how far does it go and

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how much power do they really have and

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it was an amazing show to do I mean you

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know that's a show in itself I'll be

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honest with the Christian gene that you

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know you could talk for days and days on

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the Freemasons and never scratch the

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surface because it's not a history that

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goes 100 and or 200 years but you're

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talking going back to the building of

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Solomon's Temple and you're talking

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about quite a long time ago where you

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know this organization came together and

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have as it has existed ever since I'm

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very proud of that show I believe it is

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on YouTube last time I checked if

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anybody wants to google it or YouTube it

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I believe it's on there but yeah it was

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it was one of those shows we were very

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637
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with John Greenwald with the black vault

638
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:15,150
but we were talking very briefly there

639
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:16,710
in the power cast with Jane and Chris

640
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:19,740
about some of his other adventures in

641
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the business of show through the earths

642
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including secrets of the Freemasons of

643
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:26,700
course he was also did some production

644
00:27:31,220 --> 00:27:28,740
work with the UFO Hunters TV show

645
00:27:33,740 --> 00:27:31,230
National Geographic Hitler in the occult

646
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:33,750
he's got a really interesting resume

647
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:35,700
they're worth checking out but right now

648
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:38,370
we're going to focus on the black fault

649
00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:40,710
accumulating hundreds of thousands of

650
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,140
documents not just about UFOs but about

651
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:44,880
other things but let's look at what

652
00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:48,000
we've learned you scanned over 600,000

653
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:49,950
documents there and you must be very

654
00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:51,570
tired doing that in the week it's

655
00:27:58,580 --> 00:27:55,800
amazing John six six days actually six

656
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,590
ok and six in the seventh day I rested

657
00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:00,960
or you were arrested depending on your

658
00:28:06,110 --> 00:28:03,990
point of view but we don't want to say

659
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:06,120
for what but seriously speaking his icon

660
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,340
on skype by the way it's just black it's

661
00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:10,320
all black he uses a black icon a lot of

662
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:12,180
people set up a Skype network connection

663
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:14,310
you know like with me I don't know what

664
00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:15,900
I put on there Chris has a picture

665
00:28:20,090 --> 00:28:17,670
himself without the beard which comes

666
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:20,100
and goes but John does not want to be

667
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:21,130
seen

668
00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:23,320
what's really strange and I was talking

669
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:25,420
about the time dilation theory with

670
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:27,730
Chris this shows gonna be heard the

671
00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:31,330
first Sunday in March but on the first

672
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:32,980
Sunday in March you're not going to be

673
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,350
where you are now you're going to be in

674
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,360
Fountain Hills Arizona at the

675
00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:39,520
International UFO Congress where we'll

676
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:41,620
be talking to you again so very good you

677
00:28:46,290 --> 00:28:44,890
both be there yes well very good well

678
00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:46,300
it'd be great to see you both in person

679
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:49,300
well I'm invisible so I don't cast a

680
00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:50,620
reflection but you'll definitely see

681
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:56,440
Chris seriously they let me in oh yeah

682
00:29:00,690 --> 00:28:58,930
right his relationship with the crew at

683
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:00,700
the International UFO Congress is a

684
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,550
little bit shaded tainted yeah without

685
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:08,820
getting into very many details John I

686
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,310
happen to point out that the the lineup

687
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:13,840
they had the first year that they had

688
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:16,150
moved it to Fountain Hills versus the

689
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:17,880
lineup last year there was quite a

690
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:20,560
glaring sort of discrepancy in the

691
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:23,350
quality of speakers and they've come

692
00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:25,420
back I think around and and this year's

693
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:27,550
lineup really looks good I'm looking

694
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:29,710
forward to two going there and and

695
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:32,110
reacquainting myself with us with some

696
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,170
of these speakers including yourself

697
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:36,640
nice thing about this is this is in the

698
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:38,740
past tense because all this will have

699
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:40,750
happened or have mostly happened oh what

700
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:42,730
happened right right it was really

701
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:44,920
fabulous meeting John and being Stanton

702
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:46,810
Friedman again and Richard olden and all

703
00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:48,580
the people that I've known and meeting a

704
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:51,160
few people like James Fox who we've

705
00:29:54,390 --> 00:29:52,570
talked to on the phone a lot of times

706
00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:54,400
but hadn't met him you see how we do

707
00:29:57,870 --> 00:29:56,500
that you know this is amazing let's talk

708
00:29:59,850 --> 00:29:57,880
about some of the specifics in black

709
00:30:02,400 --> 00:29:59,860
fault so some of the documents you got

710
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,410
were about the Kennedy assassination but

711
00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:04,960
does anything in those documents give us

712
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,780
anything new you know it really after

713
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:10,000
all these decades have the answer is yes

714
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:12,280
and no no because you do see the Warren

715
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:14,470
Commission report and you see a lot of

716
00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:16,630
the other material that has come out but

717
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:19,480
also you get kind of some other tidbits

718
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,410
on maybe why JFK was assassinated maybe

719
00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:26,080
not necessarily by whom but you get a

720
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:28,270
little bit of a motive that's one of the

721
00:30:32,490 --> 00:30:30,850
biggest things to look at when you look

722
00:30:34,889 --> 00:30:32,500
at the new material that's coming out

723
00:30:37,649 --> 00:30:34,899
now what is that theory well

724
00:30:39,570 --> 00:30:37,659
to me you know I think it's a there's a

725
00:30:41,579 --> 00:30:39,580
lot of weight to the fact that JFK

726
00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:41,589
wanted to cooperate with the Soviets

727
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:45,190
that he wanted to start sharing UFO

728
00:30:50,009 --> 00:30:47,049
information those documents came out

729
00:30:52,019 --> 00:30:50,019
that he wanted to show that the UFOs

730
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:52,029
that were seeing around the planet were

731
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:53,200
not American

732
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:55,989
they were not US intruding on our enemy

733
00:31:00,180 --> 00:30:57,899
or our friends air spaces without

734
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:00,190
declaration of war that these were

735
00:31:04,049 --> 00:31:01,570
something that we just didn't know what

736
00:31:05,999 --> 00:31:04,059
they were so those types of documents

737
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,009
you know they really kind of again add

738
00:31:11,219 --> 00:31:08,799
to the story and and kind of take us a

739
00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:11,229
little bit more down the line to trying

740
00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:12,779
to figure out what the truth is but

741
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:15,190
unfortunately not only with the JFK JFK

742
00:31:19,019 --> 00:31:17,080
assassination what but with pretty much

743
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:19,029
everything else you may get a couple

744
00:31:22,889 --> 00:31:20,769
steps down the line but there's a lot of

745
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:22,899
questions that come along with it isn't

746
00:31:26,899 --> 00:31:25,059
interesting here back in the 70s a

747
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:26,909
congressional committee concluded that a

748
00:31:31,999 --> 00:31:29,289
conspiracy was involved in the JFK

749
00:31:34,469 --> 00:31:32,009
assassination that's as far as it went

750
00:31:36,959 --> 00:31:34,479
mm-hmm yeah there's there's a lot of

751
00:31:38,249 --> 00:31:36,969
great history there and if again you

752
00:31:40,229 --> 00:31:38,259
know the Warren Commission report is

753
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:40,239
kind of what we all know about but that

754
00:31:44,489 --> 00:31:42,129
assassination committee report that came

755
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:44,499
quite quite a few years later is also

756
00:31:48,629 --> 00:31:46,450
very interesting and it shows that the

757
00:31:50,669 --> 00:31:48,639
government itself still mork's their

758
00:31:52,919 --> 00:31:50,679
decisions morts how they feel about

759
00:31:55,409 --> 00:31:52,929
certain topics and you know who knows

760
00:31:56,879 --> 00:31:55,419
maybe in twenty more years after most of

761
00:31:59,399 --> 00:31:56,889
the people involved if not all of the

762
00:32:00,539 --> 00:31:59,409
people involved have died off you know

763
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:00,549
they're gonna come out with some other

764
00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:03,460
revelation maybe my kids will learn that

765
00:32:07,739 --> 00:32:05,320
JFK was assassinated by our own

766
00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:07,749
government but at that point nobody will

767
00:32:12,509 --> 00:32:09,729
I hate to say this I really genuinely do

768
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:12,519
I believe that you know if it's 40 40

769
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:14,830
years down the line and they come out

770
00:32:19,139 --> 00:32:17,049
that they killed them maybe meaning the

771
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:19,149
government to the military or whatever

772
00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:21,369
the powers that be would they care

773
00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:23,320
because you know you're talking about

774
00:32:27,869 --> 00:32:25,960
generations generations later to a

775
00:32:30,419 --> 00:32:27,879
completely different century completely

776
00:32:31,889 --> 00:32:30,429
different era and I you know look at the

777
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:31,899
way our society is going and I don't

778
00:32:35,609 --> 00:32:33,580
want to get on a soapbox or anything but

779
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:35,619
I think there's a big possibility that

780
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:37,450
if they came out with news like that in

781
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:39,940
40 years we just may not care as a

782
00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:42,129
society and I think that that's one of

783
00:32:46,109 --> 00:32:44,139
our faults and that's a pact we're going

784
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:46,119
down very quickly right now well we can

785
00:32:50,049 --> 00:32:47,690
be politically incorrect and

786
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:50,059
about the roll up to the Iraqi war about

787
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,070
weapons of mass destruction which did

788
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:54,559
not exist but there are no consequences

789
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:57,230
there'll be no consequences there's a

790
00:33:00,639 --> 00:32:59,090
book out now called hubris which talks

791
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:00,649
about that in the run-up and all the

792
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:02,960
background information but with the

793
00:33:07,779 --> 00:33:04,850
Kennedy assassination say the government

794
00:33:09,789 --> 00:33:07,789
did it say LBJ did it because he was the

795
00:33:12,129 --> 00:33:09,799
person who gained the most from the

796
00:33:14,289 --> 00:33:12,139
death of JFK or his friends in the

797
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:14,299
military industrial complex or whatever

798
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:17,120
there will be no consequences if it

799
00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:19,850
comes out even now forget about it for

800
00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:21,230
Jean it'll come out in the Gulag

801
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:24,950
newsletter on on the back page so ok

802
00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:27,769
that was a conversation stopper oh yes

803
00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:30,350
you see you did it for us right there

804
00:33:34,299 --> 00:33:31,940
you know this conversation just rolling

805
00:33:36,879 --> 00:33:34,309
along and there it is you have a

806
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:36,889
revelation there Chris well what did JFK

807
00:33:41,139 --> 00:33:39,529
say about the CIA John I'm gonna what

808
00:33:43,419 --> 00:33:41,149
break it into a thousand pieces and

809
00:33:45,879 --> 00:33:43,429
scatter it to the wind or something well

810
00:33:48,369 --> 00:33:45,889
yeah I think that it's no secret and

811
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:48,379
unfortunately documentation is very hard

812
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:50,539
to come by to solidify my next statement

813
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,250
but you know I don't think it was a

814
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:54,399
secret that the intelligence community

815
00:33:59,740 --> 00:33:56,450
really didn't care for that

816
00:34:01,090 --> 00:33:59,750
administration JFK particularly so you

817
00:34:02,919 --> 00:34:01,100
got a lot of conspiracies that come

818
00:34:04,990 --> 00:34:02,929
along with that as well that you know

819
00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:05,000
maybe it wasn't necessarily LBJ who

820
00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:07,070
orchestrated it maybe he had knowledge

821
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:09,230
of it though because he had the most to

822
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:11,450
gain but it was the intelligence

823
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:13,700
community that really kind of played

824
00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:16,129
this out namely the CIA is there

825
00:34:19,869 --> 00:34:18,020
documented proof of that well of course

826
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:19,879
not or I I you know would be all over

827
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:21,530
the news if that something like that

828
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:24,010
came out and you're able to prove it but

829
00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:26,510
and stuff like that will obviously stay

830
00:34:31,930 --> 00:34:29,270
buried I think for quite a long time but

831
00:34:33,399 --> 00:34:31,940
you you do have those rumors you do have

832
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:33,409
those conspiracy theories and I think

833
00:34:38,619 --> 00:34:35,690
they're very well founded and I think in

834
00:34:39,790 --> 00:34:38,629
that era and even the decades prior you

835
00:34:43,210 --> 00:34:39,800
know the different intelligence

836
00:34:45,010 --> 00:34:43,220
communities the FBI the CIA you know

837
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:45,020
they didn't all just shake hands and

838
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:46,250
share information and it was

839
00:34:49,629 --> 00:34:47,750
happy-go-lucky in the intelligence

840
00:34:51,220 --> 00:34:49,639
community they did not care for each

841
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:51,230
other and a lot of people think that

842
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:52,730
that's the way it is now that there are

843
00:34:58,540 --> 00:34:56,240
kind of that power of who really is at

844
00:35:00,560 --> 00:34:58,550
the top who really does know the most

845
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,570
who really is the most powerful

846
00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:02,880
and those questions really sound like Oh

847
00:35:07,610 --> 00:35:04,740
John you're getting too conspiratorial

848
00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:07,620
and you know you're getting to Hollywood

849
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:09,390
eyes but unfortunately that's the

850
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:12,780
reality of it and you look at you know

851
00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:14,700
let's just bring this up and boy I hope

852
00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:16,440
I don't get lynched for bringing it up

853
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:18,360
well let's bring up the incident in

854
00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:21,110
Benghazi in Libya what happened when

855
00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:23,430
everybody pointed their finger at

856
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:26,340
everybody else and said we were cleaning

857
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:29,460
this it was not our fault so basically

858
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:31,140
they pointed in the other direction and

859
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:34,110
they say he or she did it we have a lot

860
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:35,640
more to talk about with John Greenwald

861
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:37,890
from the black fault with Jeanne and

862
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:39,750
Chris you know it's interesting we have

863
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:42,210
the philosophy here he did it and I kind

864
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:44,760
of think that 9/11 forgetting the

865
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:46,440
conspiracies which we can always talk

866
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:49,020
about at the very least the problem with

867
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:51,540
9/11 is that the agencies weren't

868
00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:53,730
communicating with one another so most

869
00:35:58,250 --> 00:35:56,580
charitably the most positive view that

870
00:36:00,110 --> 00:35:58,260
you can put on how the government

871
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:00,120
reacted and how it was prepared for such

872
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:03,360
an eventuality is that all these

873
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:05,400
agencies were doing their own thing they

874
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:07,290
didn't feel the obligation to talk to

875
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:09,240
one another when the warning signs were

876
00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:11,790
there why couldn't they connect the dots

877
00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:14,550
well I think the problem is now is after

878
00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:16,440
all these years of supposedly putting

879
00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:18,390
the agencies in a position to work

880
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:21,600
together Homeland Security the Patriot

881
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:23,760
Act and everything else you have to

882
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:25,830
wonder after all these years and after

883
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,510
what they've done whether the problem

884
00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:29,280
still happens Benghazi could be an

885
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:31,470
example but there could be worse and

886
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:33,870
more frightening examples and I'm going

887
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:35,190
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Greenwald of the black fault he's

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995
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on the para casts with Jeana and Chris

996
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John Greenwald in the black fault

997
00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:18,770
joining us and I pose this question

998
00:41:26,290 --> 00:41:23,030
about this inability of the intelligence

999
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:26,300
agencies and law enforcement agencies to

1000
00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:28,670
talk to one another and whether that's

1001
00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:31,700
caused so many problems to occur 9/11

1002
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:33,260
being one of them what do you think yeah

1003
00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:34,700
I think that that's one of the biggest

1004
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:37,400
failures and cover-ups to 9/11 I'm asked

1005
00:41:41,319 --> 00:41:39,050
that question a lot and to be honest

1006
00:41:43,809 --> 00:41:41,329
with you surprised a lot of people by

1007
00:41:45,010 --> 00:41:43,819
giving my honest answer and that is that

1008
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:45,020
the government didn't plan it

1009
00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:46,910
in my personal opinion I don't believe

1010
00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:49,160
there's any evidence to that grandeur

1011
00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:51,800
conspiracy that the United States played

1012
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:55,220
a role in plotting planning carrying out

1013
00:42:00,490 --> 00:41:58,490
or letting 9/11 happen whichever of

1014
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:00,500
those conspiracy theories that you buy

1015
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:04,490
into continued what about vigilant

1016
00:42:09,309 --> 00:42:07,670
Guardian and the you know the Air Force

1017
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:09,319
exercises that we're occurring that day

1018
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,760
I think you were five of them how do we

1019
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:13,280
reconcile that there were quite a few I

1020
00:42:17,230 --> 00:42:15,050
think there's a lot of coincidences that

1021
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:17,240
happen and I think that you know if you

1022
00:42:22,450 --> 00:42:19,430
really look for those coincidences to

1023
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:22,460
prove a conspiracy you'll find them you

1024
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:24,020
can find them with Benghazi you can find

1025
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:25,490
them with 9/11 you can find them with

1026
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:27,650
the JFK assassination can find them with

1027
00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:30,800
any conspiracy or any life-changing

1028
00:42:35,470 --> 00:42:33,560
event for that matter any any large

1029
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:35,480
event a hurricane for God's sakes

1030
00:42:39,579 --> 00:42:37,609
Hurricane Katrina had conspiracies

1031
00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:39,589
thrown at Bush all day long you know so

1032
00:42:43,329 --> 00:42:41,630
it's like anything that changes or

1033
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:43,339
alters our planet there's a conspiracy

1034
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:45,230
attached and if you look hard enough

1035
00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:47,359
you're always gonna find quote-unquote

1036
00:42:50,829 --> 00:42:49,550
evidence to that now I don't want to

1037
00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:50,839
make it seem like I'm ignoring your

1038
00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:52,670
question but my whole point is that you

1039
00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:55,220
can absolutely look for those types of

1040
00:43:00,880 --> 00:42:58,220
coincidences to prove or disprove any

1041
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:00,890
theory that you want I truly believe

1042
00:43:05,859 --> 00:43:03,530
that so what what I've done with 9/11 as

1043
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:05,869
I looked at very very hard for evidence

1044
00:43:10,450 --> 00:43:07,849
to show that there was some type of

1045
00:43:12,250 --> 00:43:10,460
connection to the government planning

1046
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:12,260
plotting or letting this happen or again

1047
00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:13,340
any any of those

1048
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:15,800
and couldn't find anything but going

1049
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:17,570
back to genes point what I think the

1050
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:20,780
biggest cover-up is about 911 there's

1051
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:23,090
two things that I feel are very very

1052
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:25,430
plausible one of which is is I think

1053
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:28,490
very provable and that would be that

1054
00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:31,100
intelligence failure they don't share

1055
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:33,500
information either they missed it and

1056
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:36,470
were just completely blindsided or they

1057
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:38,360
got tipped off to something like this

1058
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,450
and didn't adequately act on trying to

1059
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:44,000
figure it out I discovered a report that

1060
00:43:47,140 --> 00:43:45,170
came out through the Freedom of

1061
00:43:49,810 --> 00:43:47,150
Information Act about terrorist

1062
00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:49,820
organizations and what are were the most

1063
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:52,220
dangerous groups that we should watch

1064
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:53,810
out for number one on the list

1065
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,030
obviously al-qaeda what were they doing

1066
00:44:00,220 --> 00:43:58,400
well there was evidence that they were

1067
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:00,230
plant plotting an attack okay all of

1068
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:02,690
that was in this report it was published

1069
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:06,170
September 10th 2001 that's on the black

1070
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:07,850
ball you can download it you don't have

1071
00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:09,620
to take my word for it that's the same

1072
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:11,420
day that Donald Rumsfeld announced that

1073
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:13,310
there was 2.2 trillion dollars missing

1074
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:15,770
from the Department of Defense right and

1075
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:17,510
that's another interesting point what

1076
00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:19,430
happened to that you know is that a

1077
00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:22,220
coincidence well I I don't know is there

1078
00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:24,140
I really wish I could give you a good

1079
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:26,360
answer but there is all those little

1080
00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:29,270
types of you know coincidences and facts

1081
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:31,460
and tidbits that really do support the

1082
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:34,130
theory now just to quickly complete my

1083
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,200
thought the second thing that I believe

1084
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:38,000
is truly part of the conspiracy /

1085
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:41,570
cover-up - 9/11 is United 93 I believe

1086
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:43,820
that we shot that down no I don't have

1087
00:44:48,460 --> 00:44:45,710
documented proof on that but I believe

1088
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:48,470
that by the testimony that's coming

1089
00:44:53,260 --> 00:44:51,230
that's come out not the 9/11 Commission

1090
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:53,270
stuff which i think is just ridiculous

1091
00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:55,850
but but when you listen to President

1092
00:45:00,040 --> 00:44:58,580
Bush himself when you listen to Rumsfeld

1093
00:45:02,770 --> 00:45:00,050
and you see the different sound bites

1094
00:45:04,570 --> 00:45:02,780
Bush gave the order to shoot down 93

1095
00:45:06,130 --> 00:45:04,580
okay that's in his book that was a

1096
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,140
revelation that just came I believe in

1097
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:07,760
the last year and a half two years and

1098
00:45:12,430 --> 00:45:10,310
he gave the order and I believe just

1099
00:45:14,380 --> 00:45:12,440
just because of plausible deniability

1100
00:45:16,690 --> 00:45:14,390
I truly believe Bush was in the dark

1101
00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:16,700
that we that we shot it down and I'm not

1102
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:18,020
just saying that because I want to

1103
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:20,090
support President Bush I'm saying that

1104
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:21,650
because I believe President Obama

1105
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:23,630
President Bush President Clinton they're

1106
00:45:28,450 --> 00:45:25,820
all kept in the dark about

1107
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:28,460
things and again line them up Benghazi

1108
00:45:32,290 --> 00:45:29,570
911

1109
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:32,300
JFK whatever it may be these guys are

1110
00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:34,130
kept in the dark because these are the

1111
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:35,900
ones that the press asked questions to

1112
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,870
or should anyway they're the ones that

1113
00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:40,400
have the spotlight on them

1114
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,590
Benghazi what was kept in the dark there

1115
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:44,960
except that maybe the State Department

1116
00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:47,570
didn't do its job properly to protect

1117
00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:49,670
diplomats well I think that that's just

1118
00:45:53,530 --> 00:45:51,860
the tip of the iceberg I honestly do I

1119
00:45:55,810 --> 00:45:53,540
think when you get into Benghazi you've

1120
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:55,820
got quite a few things going on and and

1121
00:46:00,070 --> 00:45:57,530
and some people ask well why would they

1122
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:00,080
do such a thing and again I don't want

1123
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:01,430
to be lynched for bringing this up

1124
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:03,110
because this is a very controversial

1125
00:46:07,090 --> 00:46:05,210
topic but I truly believe that the

1126
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:07,100
biggest motive behind covering up what

1127
00:46:11,860 --> 00:46:09,590
Benghazi was or at least delaying what

1128
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:11,870
it was was the election let's face it

1129
00:46:15,730 --> 00:46:14,390
every poll including the right-wing

1130
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:15,740
organizations and the left-wing

1131
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,570
organizations have this as a very tight

1132
00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:20,480
race before the election so there was

1133
00:46:23,350 --> 00:46:22,580
all the motive in the world to cover

1134
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,360
this up

1135
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,760
and if you look at the history and study

1136
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:28,880
the history behind what truly are acts

1137
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:34,070
of terrorism both on US soil and off but

1138
00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:36,410
against United States assets when you

1139
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:38,420
look at the attacks through the Obama

1140
00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:41,450
administration most if not all are never

1141
00:46:45,490 --> 00:46:43,550
labeled the T word he and his

1142
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:45,500
administration will never say terrorism

1143
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:47,690
they deal with Benghazi that was one of

1144
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,850
the arguments he called an act of terror

1145
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:52,480
the very first time but the killer yes

1146
00:46:57,820 --> 00:46:55,490
no he didn't if you look if you look at

1147
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,830
the wording he never called Benghazi

1148
00:47:02,890 --> 00:47:00,800
terrorism and he said in general no act

1149
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:02,900
of terror and I understand you can parse

1150
00:47:08,050 --> 00:47:05,930
the words and parse the words and say he

1151
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:08,060
used that phrase but he was not

1152
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:09,710
referring to Benghazi as an act of

1153
00:47:13,540 --> 00:47:11,870
terror okay I even considering the fact

1154
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:13,550
that it's a screw-up by the State

1155
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,410
Department charitably that's the

1156
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:16,880
simplest explanation the non

1157
00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:19,310
conspiratorial thing and because of the

1158
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:21,350
election they kind of keep it on the

1159
00:47:25,390 --> 00:47:22,970
down-low but now that the election is

1160
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:25,400
over we're not learning much of anything

1161
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:28,370
except that it was just a screw-up right

1162
00:47:32,740 --> 00:47:30,680
and unfortunately as you can see when

1163
00:47:34,210 --> 00:47:32,750
you follow the testimony of Petraeus and

1164
00:47:35,890 --> 00:47:34,220
this was one of the finger-pointing

1165
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:35,900
episodes that I talked about that

1166
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:38,030
happens in incidents well beyond

1167
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:38,900
Benghazi

1168
00:47:44,049 --> 00:47:41,720
we're Patraeus completely went against

1169
00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:44,059
what that quote-unquote company line was

1170
00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:46,670
and that was one of the biggest things

1171
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,990
that I think even the media is

1172
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:49,760
overlooking even those journalists that

1173
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:51,890
are trying to really show hey Benghazi

1174
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:54,890
was a huge cover-up that the CIA is the

1175
00:47:58,690 --> 00:47:56,750
one that said this is an act of terror

1176
00:48:00,370 --> 00:47:58,700
so after they gave that to the

1177
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:00,380
administration that comes from Petraeus

1178
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:02,630
himself after they gave away that

1179
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:05,210
information someone changed it and

1180
00:48:09,849 --> 00:48:07,369
everybody finger pointed on who changed

1181
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:09,859
it now now here we are you know however

1182
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,130
many months later and you know you kind

1183
00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:14,720
of ask yourself a little really kind of

1184
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:17,270
who cares you know because into a point

1185
00:48:20,859 --> 00:48:18,710
it's like well it's not that big of a

1186
00:48:23,170 --> 00:48:20,869
deal but when you look at the grander

1187
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:23,180
scale to me and you look at the history

1188
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:25,010
of the administration and you look at

1189
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:26,690
the documentation this isn't just my

1190
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:28,490
opinion you look at the documentation

1191
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:29,750
that came out of the Fort Hood attack

1192
00:48:35,890 --> 00:48:33,440
you can't have come out of the attack of

1193
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:35,900
the double-murder I believe it was in

1194
00:48:41,230 --> 00:48:38,960
Colorado on the recruiting Depot where

1195
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:41,240
military officers were killed and this

1196
00:48:45,819 --> 00:48:44,510
guy named his jihad as as motive for

1197
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:45,829
what it was and they wouldn't label it

1198
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:47,930
terrorism they would label Fort Hood

1199
00:48:51,849 --> 00:48:50,089
workplace violence and they would label

1200
00:48:53,799 --> 00:48:51,859
the other one just a regular homicide

1201
00:48:56,410 --> 00:48:53,809
the point is is that they're hiding from

1202
00:48:59,500 --> 00:48:56,420
that terrorists word because they cannot

1203
00:49:01,930 --> 00:48:59,510
give that facade of weakness for this

1204
00:49:04,059 --> 00:49:01,940
administration now after the election

1205
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:04,069
why don't they come out with it well to

1206
00:49:08,769 --> 00:49:05,930
me that's very simple because you look

1207
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:08,779
at the tip of the conspiracy you know

1208
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,730
and the secrets behind all of this who

1209
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,520
is it potentially the next United States

1210
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,400
president Hillary Clinton so you have to

1211
00:49:20,109 --> 00:49:18,079
keep that story under wraps now they

1212
00:49:22,990 --> 00:49:20,119
have a different motive but they have

1213
00:49:24,849 --> 00:49:23,000
the same agenda cover it all up and they

1214
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:24,859
have to do that and I think that these

1215
00:49:28,089 --> 00:49:26,510
hearings you know pretty much

1216
00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:28,099
spearheaded by Senator McCain and

1217
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:31,160
Senator Graham you got a look at what

1218
00:49:33,099 --> 00:49:32,480
these guys are saying and what they've

1219
00:49:35,019 --> 00:49:33,109
seen

1220
00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:35,029
you know the my final thought on it is

1221
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,670
the reason I think John McCain is kind

1222
00:49:41,470 --> 00:49:39,920
of very passionate about this is not

1223
00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:41,480
because he's a sore loser because he

1224
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:43,910
lost to Obama you know five years ago

1225
00:49:50,049 --> 00:49:47,569
it's not because he is a Republican and

1226
00:49:51,609 --> 00:49:50,059
and Obama's a Democrat I truly believe

1227
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:51,619
that when you look at the motive for

1228
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:52,710
what these guys wanted to do

1229
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:55,020
and Benghazi and that was capture

1230
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,720
Christopher Stevens not kill him he was

1231
00:50:01,460 --> 00:49:59,520
going to become a powa be tortured

1232
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:01,470
beheaded whatever they were going to do

1233
00:50:06,770 --> 00:50:04,710
John McCain more than anybody arguably

1234
00:50:09,050 --> 00:50:06,780
in the government today knows more about

1235
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:09,060
what would happen to Christopher Stevens

1236
00:50:13,099 --> 00:50:11,160
if that happened and I think that he

1237
00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:13,109
knows that he owes it to the to the

1238
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,630
honor of these four people that died to

1239
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:17,280
figure out the truth I mean this isn't

1240
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:19,830
just an intelligence failure you've got

1241
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:22,500
I think a political power play playing

1242
00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:25,170
with people's lives and I think that you

1243
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,540
have to look at that and and that plays

1244
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:30,000
into almost any other conspiracy and

1245
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:31,530
government secret that you want to look

1246
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,810
into because you have to look and all

1247
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,280
the pieces of the puzzle to start to

1248
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:37,440
unravel it okay I think we should stop

1249
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:39,450
with the Benghazi stuff there's been a

1250
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:41,430
lot of political posturing on this issue

1251
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:44,310
a lot of false information has been

1252
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:46,530
published such as claiming that was real

1253
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:48,540
time video and that stuff let's move on

1254
00:50:51,980 --> 00:50:49,950
okay so what are the pieces of the

1255
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,990
puzzle and the 911 conspiracy other than

1256
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,000
incompetence once again well to me I

1257
00:50:58,579 --> 00:50:56,400
believe that that really is what I came

1258
00:51:00,770 --> 00:50:58,589
up with again that's my personal opinion

1259
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:00,780
okay we brought down flight 93 but what

1260
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:05,490
else that's that okay is a contingency

1261
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:09,450
plan but ahead of 9/11 was anything of

1262
00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:11,430
foot other than failing to connect the

1263
00:51:15,620 --> 00:51:13,470
dots was anything else at play we're not

1264
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,630
talking about once it was happening they

1265
00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:17,460
took various measures that you may or

1266
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:19,950
may not agree with in terms of the way

1267
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:21,690
the military acted in terms of that

1268
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:23,670
particular decision but what about

1269
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:25,910
before 9/11 what could have been

1270
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:28,770
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here's Jane Steinberg when you talk

1334
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about conspiracies and you talk about

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UFOs and the Kennedy assassination you

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get into all sorts of political

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shenanigans such as they are with Jean

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and Chris we have John Greenwald of the

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Black fall to John other than what we

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learn is what's happening after the

1341
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event whereas the event was taking place

1342
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:35,050
what about before in the run-up 9/11

1343
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:37,030
correct I mean we're back in 9/11 yeah I

1344
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don't know what you kind of want me to

1345
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,820
spotlight on I don't really get the

1346
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point of the the point is here in the

1347
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run-up to 9/11 when all this stuff was

1348
00:54:48,810 --> 00:54:46,150
going on and supposedly they had what 50

1349
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:48,820
or 55 warnings that something was afoot

1350
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:52,090
they they deliberately ignore it were

1351
00:54:57,660 --> 00:54:55,180
they oblivious to the consequences did

1352
00:54:59,610 --> 00:54:57,670
they allow it to happen well all sorts

1353
00:55:01,350 --> 00:54:59,620
of summaries there there are all sorts

1354
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:01,360
of stories and kind of thank you for

1355
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,190
explaining that to me so yeah my

1356
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:05,200
comments on that is no I don't believe

1357
00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:06,610
that they saw that this was going to

1358
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:09,640
happen on September 11 or late in 2001

1359
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:12,070
and they let it happen I just don't see

1360
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:14,290
that happening what I think happened and

1361
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:15,970
you can see this and this is documented

1362
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:18,880
as well is that they get intelligence

1363
00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:22,050
they get leads they get tips they get

1364
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:24,340
allegations they get you know they get

1365
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:26,440
that every hour of every day every

1366
00:55:31,410 --> 00:55:29,110
minute it's amazing to see how many tips

1367
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:31,420
the Secret Service gets on threats on

1368
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:33,850
the president okay now hopefully I won't

1369
00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:35,530
set off all the alarms of echelon by

1370
00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:38,460
saying this but god forbid let's say an

1371
00:55:43,230 --> 00:55:41,080
assassination were to take place of a

1372
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:43,240
United States president none in

1373
00:55:47,550 --> 00:55:45,850
particular on a date sometime in the

1374
00:55:49,950 --> 00:55:47,560
future that I'm not privy to now that

1375
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:49,960
being said what would happen well you

1376
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:51,610
would put the spotlight on that date you

1377
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:53,500
put the spotlight on the Secret Service

1378
00:55:57,930 --> 00:55:55,990
you would line up the warnings that they

1379
00:55:59,490 --> 00:55:57,940
got and say well did you act on this one

1380
00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:59,500
no we didn't we didn't have the manpower

1381
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:01,420
what did you act on this one no he

1382
00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:02,830
didn't we didn't have the manpower no we

1383
00:56:06,030 --> 00:56:04,420
didn't think this was relevant well do

1384
00:56:06,579 --> 00:56:06,040
you think it's relevant now I mean you

1385
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:06,589
could put this

1386
00:56:10,299 --> 00:56:08,569
light on the secret service and prove

1387
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:10,309
that there was some massive intelligence

1388
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:12,710
failure and some you know evidence of a

1389
00:56:16,989 --> 00:56:14,210
conspiracy but does that mean it really

1390
00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:16,999
happened now what's my point with 9/11 I

1391
00:56:21,579 --> 00:56:19,190
really don't think there was that much

1392
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:21,589
of an influx and warnings on on

1393
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,880
terrorist attacks

1394
00:56:28,089 --> 00:56:24,799
I believe that though that influx came

1395
00:56:29,709 --> 00:56:28,099
post 9/11 I believe that yes it was an

1396
00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:29,719
intelligence failure and in a lot of

1397
00:56:36,459 --> 00:56:32,390
ways to look at 9/11 that's where it

1398
00:56:38,769 --> 00:56:36,469
stops when you deal with the United 93 I

1399
00:56:40,509 --> 00:56:38,779
believe yes we shot it down no document

1400
00:56:42,999 --> 00:56:40,519
approved about however but I I just

1401
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:43,009
don't buy into the theory that we had

1402
00:56:49,209 --> 00:56:46,670
this huge covert operation to let this

1403
00:56:50,979 --> 00:56:49,219
happen because why you look at the

1404
00:56:53,289 --> 00:56:50,989
motive what did we want you want to

1405
00:56:55,390 --> 00:56:53,299
throw oil in there you want to say Bush

1406
00:56:57,009 --> 00:56:55,400
had a vendetta against Hussein you want

1407
00:56:59,229 --> 00:56:57,019
to you know whatever motive you want to

1408
00:57:01,239 --> 00:56:59,239
throw in there well I'm sorry he didn't

1409
00:57:03,249 --> 00:57:01,249
have to the United States

1410
00:57:05,410 --> 00:57:03,259
economy he didn't have to bring down the

1411
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:05,420
two twin towers and he didn't have to

1412
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:08,690
deface the power of America by striking

1413
00:57:13,059 --> 00:57:11,089
one of its most powerful symbols being

1414
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:13,069
the Pentagon he didn't have to do any of

1415
00:57:18,279 --> 00:57:16,160
that to accomplish the same exact thing

1416
00:57:21,099 --> 00:57:18,289
so I just don't buy that there's a

1417
00:57:22,779 --> 00:57:21,109
viable motive let alone the evidence to

1418
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:22,789
back it up but I think it's pretty clear

1419
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:26,329
they used that event as an excuse to go

1420
00:57:29,529 --> 00:57:28,130
into Iraq although they might have done

1421
00:57:31,450 --> 00:57:29,539
that anyway let's move to some other

1422
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:31,460
stories here and get the Patriot Act

1423
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:33,710
signed in two weeks that was interesting

1424
00:57:39,489 --> 00:57:35,839
too and it's interesting here too is

1425
00:57:43,029 --> 00:57:39,499
that if anything Obama has been more

1426
00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:43,039
warlike in certain aspects than Bush I

1427
00:57:47,019 --> 00:57:45,380
mean look at the drone program so you

1428
00:57:50,349 --> 00:57:47,029
know this is the person who you think is

1429
00:57:53,170 --> 00:57:50,359
the Kenyan liberal communist fascist

1430
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:53,180
whatever and it comes in there and he

1431
00:57:58,779 --> 00:57:55,849
yes we got out of Iraq of course he

1432
00:58:00,880 --> 00:57:58,789
leaves up the Afghanistan war puts more

1433
00:58:03,819 --> 00:58:00,890
troops in there starts the drone program

1434
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:03,829
and of course keeps the Patriot Act

1435
00:58:06,819 --> 00:58:05,450
going so what's the difference all

1436
00:58:09,309 --> 00:58:06,829
things remain the same I have this

1437
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,319
theory John and this could be something

1438
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:11,359
we can talk about getting away from the

1439
00:58:16,059 --> 00:58:13,089
politics after this and that is that

1440
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:16,069
when the new president takes over you

1441
00:58:19,390 --> 00:58:17,599
know he takes the oath of office he's

1442
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:19,400
sitting in the White House after the

1443
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:20,130
inauguration

1444
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,340
and national security people secret

1445
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:25,440
government people whatever go in there

1446
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:27,570
and they brief him and they say mr.

1447
00:58:32,090 --> 00:58:29,970
president things are not quite what you

1448
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:32,100
think they are here's what's really

1449
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:35,520
going on and suddenly everything changes

1450
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:38,850
yeah I 100% agree with you I believe

1451
00:58:43,460 --> 00:58:40,860
wholeheartedly that when you're

1452
00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:43,470
campaigning and I'll use Obama as an

1453
00:58:46,850 --> 00:58:45,420
example and I will defend him on this

1454
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:46,860
and I can't believe I'm saying that but

1455
00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:48,660
I will defend Obama on this point is

1456
00:58:51,950 --> 00:58:49,950
that when you're campaigning you're

1457
00:58:53,930 --> 00:58:51,960
saying one thing but when you get into

1458
00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:53,940
office it's exactly how you just said it

1459
00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:56,520
you get the truth to a point you

1460
00:59:01,480 --> 00:58:58,740
understand the reality so let's compare

1461
00:59:03,860 --> 00:59:01,490
it to Obama he says I'm gonna close

1462
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:03,870
Guantanamo Bay I'm gonna shut it all

1463
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:06,530
down we don't need it it doesn't work

1464
00:59:11,330 --> 00:59:09,180
waterboarding is ridiculous and so on

1465
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:11,340
and so forth what happens Gitmo is still

1466
00:59:14,570 --> 00:59:12,240
alive and well

1467
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:14,580
they still water it well that's arguable

1468
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:16,650
I won't say the waterboarding comment

1469
00:59:20,270 --> 00:59:18,390
according to them they only waterboarded

1470
00:59:22,220 --> 00:59:20,280
four people okay but not during the

1471
00:59:24,740 --> 00:59:22,230
Obama administration but that being said

1472
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:24,750
now they got bin Laden with intelligence

1473
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:27,210
that they garnered from waterboarding

1474
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:29,310
that's being disputed but I'll grant

1475
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:31,110
that at least some information came that

1476
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,450
way right it's disputed but absolutely

1477
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:36,000
that that's what they did that's how

1478
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:37,710
they got this intelligence and I do

1479
00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:39,810
believe that and so what happens is that

1480
00:59:44,750 --> 00:59:42,390
Obama gets into office he learns things

1481
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,760
like that the Guantanamo is an

1482
00:59:49,610 --> 00:59:47,280
intelligence gathering mission so to

1483
00:59:52,070 --> 00:59:49,620
speak that that facility needs to stay

1484
00:59:54,050 --> 00:59:52,080
in play so he keeps it in play the

1485
00:59:56,210 --> 00:59:54,060
Patriot Act has to stay in place so

1486
00:59:58,310 --> 00:59:56,220
what's he do he keeps it in play and yet

1487
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:58,320
when he's campaigning and he and this is

1488
01:00:00,620 --> 00:59:59,040
where I'll defend him

1489
01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:00,630
I believe he really thought he would do

1490
01:00:04,090 --> 01:00:02,220
all of that I believe he really thought

1491
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:04,100
he would go in there shut down Gitmo

1492
01:00:09,260 --> 01:00:06,810
rewrite the Patriot Act and to be you

1493
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:09,270
know the the Obama Sunshine Act and make

1494
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:11,250
everybody feel you know safe and secure

1495
01:00:14,570 --> 01:00:13,290
in their homes and we wouldn't the

1496
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:14,580
government wouldn't look in on their

1497
01:00:18,350 --> 01:00:16,890
private lives without but--'cause and I

1498
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:18,360
and I think that that's truly what his

1499
01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:20,250
intent was I believe he was being honest

1500
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,160
but now the game changed and he learned

1501
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:25,740
what really was going on and I think

1502
01:00:32,570 --> 01:00:29,610
that that's something that piece of 44

1503
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:32,580
presidents actually are only privy to

1504
01:00:35,779 --> 01:00:33,359
and no one

1505
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:35,789
else's and that is the reality behind

1506
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:38,609
the intelligence community the safety of

1507
01:00:42,589 --> 01:00:40,710
America and what truly is going on

1508
01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:42,599
behind the scenes and there's not many

1509
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:44,670
people alive that know that and Obama's

1510
01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:46,380
now one of them and I think his actions

1511
01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:49,190
should really speak to the magnitude of

1512
01:00:54,589 --> 01:00:52,200
what is the reality behind the scenes

1513
01:00:56,029 --> 01:00:54,599
and maybe that's why presidents as soon

1514
01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:56,039
as they get into office really start

1515
01:01:02,089 --> 01:00:59,460
popping gray hairs it's not only that I

1516
01:01:05,210 --> 01:01:02,099
mean look at the way they age it's it's

1517
01:01:07,220 --> 01:01:05,220
it's sad and you know that's that's you

1518
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:07,230
got to take partisanship out of it and

1519
01:01:12,859 --> 01:01:10,799
look and Obama just four years ago just

1520
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:12,869
five years ago and look at him today you

1521
01:01:18,049 --> 01:01:15,660
look at George Bush and in 2001 then

1522
01:01:20,359 --> 01:01:18,059
look at him in 2008 same with Clinton

1523
01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:20,369
and you can keep going backwards and it

1524
01:01:25,099 --> 01:01:22,380
takes its toll and I don't believe that

1525
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:25,109
that's just the physical demand that's

1526
01:01:30,380 --> 01:01:27,569
absolutely the mental demand yeah you

1527
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:30,390
know they and and I will say it's got to

1528
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:31,710
be hard for them to make the tough

1529
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:33,930
decisions let's say like the ax Benghazi

1530
01:01:39,019 --> 01:01:36,690
thing or the 9/11 thing what do you do

1531
01:01:41,059 --> 01:01:39,029
you know do you just do you just load up

1532
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:41,069
the guns and blow them the hell or do

1533
01:01:46,009 --> 01:01:43,140
you continue reading about the little

1534
01:01:49,009 --> 01:01:46,019
goat for seven minutes to the kids in

1535
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:49,019
Florida you know here's the deal though

1536
01:01:55,789 --> 01:01:51,569
it wasn't terrorism when the first plane

1537
01:01:58,579 --> 01:01:55,799
struck that's true so it not right I do

1538
01:02:01,400 --> 01:01:58,589
have to support President Bush for two

1539
01:02:04,009 --> 01:02:01,410
reasons number one they didn't say mr.

1540
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:04,019
president we've been struck on United

1541
01:02:08,479 --> 01:02:06,450
States soil continue reading not a

1542
01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:08,489
problem they didn't say that they said a

1543
01:02:16,059 --> 01:02:11,220
play it was a mistake it was an accident

1544
01:02:20,839 --> 01:02:19,759
situation yeah so I think you know and I

1545
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,849
would say this Democrat a Republican

1546
01:02:25,220 --> 01:02:22,799
that if a president was sitting reading

1547
01:02:28,279 --> 01:02:25,230
to schoolchildren and a very horrible

1548
01:02:29,569 --> 01:02:28,289
tragedy on the stake where a plane hits

1549
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,579
a building and the president freaks out

1550
01:02:34,489 --> 01:02:31,680
and says sorry kids natural emergency I

1551
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,499
gotta run and he leaves you know that's

1552
01:02:38,329 --> 01:02:36,960
good that causes panic because then it's

1553
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:38,339
like what is the president know that we

1554
01:02:43,249 --> 01:02:40,650
don't know oh my god the minute that

1555
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:43,259
planes the second plane struck what

1556
01:02:45,940 --> 01:02:44,450
happened

1557
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:45,950
she left the school he did exactly what

1558
01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:48,290
any president would do so I think that

1559
01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,150
you know when you look when you look at

1560
01:02:53,470 --> 01:02:52,400
it you could say anything you want when

1561
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:53,480
he's sitting reading the schoolchildren

1562
01:02:58,450 --> 01:02:56,270
but it was not terrorism bin Laden was

1563
01:03:00,760 --> 01:02:58,460
never whispered into his ear al Qaeda

1564
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:00,770
was never mentioned so I think that you

1565
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:02,570
get you know you can't look too hard for

1566
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:03,650
the conspiracy because you could

1567
01:03:07,450 --> 01:03:05,570
definitely find it no matter where you

1568
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:07,460
look well like I said he went on reading

1569
01:03:11,860 --> 01:03:09,710
for seven minutes because you know it

1570
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:11,870
was a fluid situation I have a question

1571
01:03:18,060 --> 01:03:15,410
from one of our more active participants

1572
01:03:20,650 --> 01:03:18,070
at 4:00 inform dr. Peres cast calm and

1573
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:20,660
he has a bunch of questions but I wanna

1574
01:03:24,970 --> 01:03:22,610
I wanna throw one at you off the top

1575
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:24,980
here which which I'd like to know I'll

1576
01:03:29,020 --> 01:03:26,570
tell you what we have to keep as a

1577
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:29,030
cliffhanger what is the question that

1578
01:03:34,990 --> 01:03:32,090
Chris wants to know asked by our members

1579
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:35,000
of the para caste community forums John

1580
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:37,130
Greenwald of the black vault joins us

1581
01:03:46,690 --> 01:03:39,170
with Jean and Chris you're in the para

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01:03:50,759 --> 01:03:48,289
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para cast comm with Tina and Chris and

1690
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the para casts John Greenwald jr. of a

1691
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black vault he's also TV producer and

1692
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consulting producer and all that stuff

1693
01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:23,740
and we had a very very important

1694
01:08:28,769 --> 01:08:27,100
question posed by our listeners one of

1695
01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:28,779
many there's like two dozen questions

1696
01:08:33,870 --> 01:08:30,910
we'll try to ask as many as we can

1697
01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:33,880
Chris proceed okay we have a question

1698
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,100
from Boggs Makai who's one of our most

1699
01:08:42,269 --> 01:08:38,560
active participants at forum dr. para

1700
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:42,279
cast comm John any favorite scoops you

1701
01:08:46,829 --> 01:08:44,500
think may have been mistakenly released

1702
01:08:48,570 --> 01:08:46,839
or Declassified are there any that

1703
01:08:51,450 --> 01:08:48,580
spring to mind out of all those

1704
01:08:55,710 --> 01:08:51,460
thousands of documents well that's a

1705
01:08:57,570 --> 01:08:55,720
great question and I will say that one

1706
01:09:00,960 --> 01:08:57,580
of the documents that I would bring up

1707
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:00,970
is something that was released which was

1708
01:09:08,370 --> 01:09:05,500
an Air Force manual namely 10-2 0-6 that

1709
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:08,380
specifically outlined how the United

1710
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,210
States Air Force should report

1711
01:09:14,130 --> 01:09:12,880
unidentified flying objects now that in

1712
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:14,140
itself isn't interesting what's

1713
01:09:18,690 --> 01:09:16,330
interesting is this was pretty much a

1714
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:18,700
present day publication the United

1715
01:09:23,099 --> 01:09:20,500
States Air Force contrary to what they

1716
01:09:25,289 --> 01:09:23,109
wanted you to believe about UFOs and

1717
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:25,299
that they ended their investigation back

1718
01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:27,850
in 1969 they were still collecting these

1719
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,240
reports and I had done a quite a bit of

1720
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:33,040
investigation where they sent the

1721
01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:35,350
reports to which happened to be an

1722
01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:37,180
installation that was not subject to the

1723
01:09:41,930 --> 01:09:39,940
Freedom of Information Act but they said

1724
01:09:44,519 --> 01:09:41,940
in good faith they looked for records

1725
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:44,529
pertaining to my request didn't find any

1726
01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:47,049
this was at the NORAD installation for

1727
01:09:50,820 --> 01:09:49,150
reference and I actually was able to

1728
01:09:52,499 --> 01:09:50,830
uncover quite a few documents to the

1729
01:09:54,810 --> 01:09:52,509
Canadian government so I was able to

1730
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:54,820
prove they were outright lying now why

1731
01:09:59,340 --> 01:09:56,890
do I bring this up well the huffington

1732
01:10:01,560 --> 01:09:59,350
post last year was doing a story and

1733
01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:01,570
they asked me a very similar question

1734
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:03,380
what are the most important

1735
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:07,710
documents that have come out about UFOs

1736
01:10:11,390 --> 01:10:09,600
and so I gave him a couple and this

1737
01:10:13,490 --> 01:10:11,400
United States Air Force manual was one

1738
01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:13,500
of them the last time it was updated I

1739
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:15,780
believe was in 2009 2010 and

1740
01:10:21,650 --> 01:10:18,330
unidentified flying objects had its own

1741
01:10:23,570 --> 01:10:21,660
chapter in this manual well the phone

1742
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:23,580
call was made to the Pentagon by Lee

1743
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:25,770
Spiegel at the huffington post he did an

1744
01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:27,690
excellent job as any journalist would do

1745
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:29,580
he wanted to get the opposite point of

1746
01:10:34,490 --> 01:10:31,860
the point of the story and wanted to ask

1747
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:34,500
here what what how do you explain this

1748
01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:37,110
document because I showed him how to get

1749
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:38,940
it on the Air Force's server you didn't

1750
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:42,090
have to you know trust me you could

1751
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:43,920
download it from the Air Force which he

1752
01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:46,890
did and was quite amazed well two days

1753
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:48,750
had gone by the Pentagon refused to

1754
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:51,510
return his phone call and so he goes

1755
01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:54,450
back on to the Air Force's website he

1756
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:56,430
downloads the the document and it's

1757
01:11:00,770 --> 01:10:57,690
completely different

1758
01:11:03,260 --> 01:11:00,780
it has completely changed the entire

1759
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:03,270
chapter on UFOs was completely taken out

1760
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:05,760
and so he called me and I thought maybe

1761
01:11:10,130 --> 01:11:06,780
it was just a mistake

1762
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:10,140
I log on and sure enough they changed it

1763
01:11:14,690 --> 01:11:13,050
the publication date for that version of

1764
01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:14,700
ten - to 0-6

1765
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:17,400
was the day after or the two days after

1766
01:11:24,620 --> 01:11:21,420
Lee had called oh wait so I get caught

1767
01:11:26,750 --> 01:11:24,630
with your pants down why exactly and I

1768
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:26,760
think that maybe it was a mistake for

1769
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:29,910
them to release that manual not only to

1770
01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:32,010
me but then stored it on their own web

1771
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:33,720
site I'd released it I've lectured about

1772
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:35,730
it I got it into a History Channel show

1773
01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:38,250
that I had produced and directed so it

1774
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:39,480
had kind of gotten out there but this

1775
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:40,860
was the first time that the mainstream

1776
01:11:45,620 --> 01:11:43,530
media was actually gonna spotlight it

1777
01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:45,630
get the Pentagon involved and say hey

1778
01:11:50,150 --> 01:11:47,910
you guys speak to this what is this and

1779
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:50,160
if you're saying in one breath we don't

1780
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:52,110
care about UFOs and we haven't since

1781
01:11:57,620 --> 01:11:55,920
1969 how could you have this manual and

1782
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:57,630
and say that you're you know looking

1783
01:12:03,230 --> 01:12:00,960
into these UFOs and and they changed the

1784
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:03,240
entire document so it's it's a very

1785
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:05,850
fascinating story and I believe it's

1786
01:12:09,740 --> 01:12:07,530
still in The Huffington Post archives

1787
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:09,750
you can still read the story but I think

1788
01:12:13,310 --> 01:12:12,030
that that's definitely a prime example

1789
01:12:15,310 --> 01:12:13,320
of something that that came out that

1790
01:12:17,230 --> 01:12:15,320
they probably regretted

1791
01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:17,240
when it comes to reality in the

1792
01:12:23,410 --> 01:12:21,680
government it's very very fluid the

1793
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:23,420
fault there's a follow-up question has

1794
01:12:28,810 --> 01:12:26,290
anyone in any sort of official position

1795
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:28,820
tried to get you to remove anything from

1796
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,710
the vault no in fact going back to 9/11

1797
01:12:39,820 --> 01:12:36,400
I actually feared that that would happen

1798
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:39,830
and and rightfully so after 9/11

1799
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,050
happened the government military went

1800
01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:43,760
back and classified hundreds of

1801
01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:46,580
thousands if not millions of pages it's

1802
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:48,820
unknown about how many actually were

1803
01:12:53,980 --> 01:12:51,110
reclassified so those that may have been

1804
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:53,990
secret or top secret or restricted that

1805
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:56,810
were Declassified and released they went

1806
01:13:01,450 --> 01:12:59,360
ahead and and reclassified them and

1807
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,460
pulled them off off the show so to speak

1808
01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:03,920
and didn't allow them to be out in the

1809
01:13:08,230 --> 01:13:06,350
daylight anymore I never got a phone

1810
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:08,240
call or a knock on the door and I really

1811
01:13:14,230 --> 01:13:11,810
thought that that I would so here's my

1812
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,240
quick explanation to that and I think

1813
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:16,640
it's very important to kind of take that

1814
01:13:22,780 --> 01:13:19,730
story digest it and then realize how the

1815
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:22,790
government today uses the Freedom of

1816
01:13:28,810 --> 01:13:26,750
Information Act and responds to requests

1817
01:13:31,150 --> 01:13:28,820
like I send in and I believe that there

1818
01:13:34,270 --> 01:13:31,160
are very much more tight-lipped about

1819
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:34,280
what they release for this reason after

1820
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,290
9/11 when they reclassified all this

1821
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:38,480
information let's face it if this

1822
01:13:44,020 --> 01:13:41,120
happened in you know the early eighties

1823
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:44,030
mid 80s and they reclassified a bunch of

1824
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:45,920
information they could knock out a few

1825
01:13:50,530 --> 01:13:49,010
doors for those people that use the

1826
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,540
Freedom of Information Act in the early

1827
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,640
days got the physical hard copies and

1828
01:13:57,190 --> 01:13:54,800
that was it but we live in the internet

1829
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,200
digital age we live in the John Green

1830
01:14:01,450 --> 01:13:59,360
wall created the black vault age and I

1831
01:14:05,530 --> 01:14:01,460
give these things out freely so there

1832
01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:05,540
are unknown copies around so there's no

1833
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:07,790
way that they could ever you can't get

1834
01:14:11,890 --> 01:14:09,170
that cat back in the bag

1835
01:14:14,170 --> 01:14:11,900
exactly so once it's out once that cats

1836
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:14,180
out of the bag it's out and I think that

1837
01:14:17,740 --> 01:14:16,250
that was probably a big lesson for them

1838
01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:17,750
and I'm kind of curious if they ever did

1839
01:14:22,300 --> 01:14:20,270
studies about you know the the effects

1840
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:22,310
of hey this was a big learning lesson

1841
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:24,650
for us maybe we were a little bit

1842
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:27,050
transparent maybe a little bit too

1843
01:14:29,740 --> 01:14:27,770
transparent

1844
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:29,750
but the minute those documents saw the

1845
01:14:34,180 --> 01:14:32,150
light of day that's it there's it's

1846
01:14:37,450 --> 01:14:34,190
never coming back they could come in

1847
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:37,460
raid my computer raid my website raid my

1848
01:14:41,470 --> 01:14:39,050
physical filing cabinets they could raid

1849
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:41,480
all of that and yet yet there's still

1850
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:43,730
copies out there on multiple servers

1851
01:14:47,980 --> 01:14:46,040
around the world and they'll never be

1852
01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:47,990
able to stop it so I think that that's

1853
01:14:52,660 --> 01:14:49,190
that's something you really got to

1854
01:14:54,730 --> 01:14:52,670
consider about how are they treating the

1855
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:54,740
Freedom of Information Act today yeah

1856
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:57,170
they have to be extremely careful well

1857
01:15:01,560 --> 01:14:58,610
have you ever been hacked have you ever

1858
01:15:03,940 --> 01:15:01,570
had some real targeted attacks

1859
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:03,950
cybercrime type attacks is another

1860
01:15:09,850 --> 01:15:07,520
question from gods mckay have you ever

1861
01:15:11,530 --> 01:15:09,860
been you know had your servers knocked

1862
01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:11,540
down have you ever been able to

1863
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:13,910
determine if you have been attacked what

1864
01:15:18,610 --> 01:15:16,370
they were going after yeah I believe

1865
01:15:21,190 --> 01:15:18,620
that it wasn't a a government or

1866
01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:21,200
military sinister operation yes I have

1867
01:15:26,410 --> 01:15:23,960
been hacked yes I have been attacked one

1868
01:15:29,260 --> 01:15:26,420
of which came last year which was very

1869
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:29,270
very interesting they installed a script

1870
01:15:35,290 --> 01:15:32,330
on my server and to make an extremely

1871
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:35,300
technical long story short I finally

1872
01:15:39,550 --> 01:15:37,130
after hours and hours and hours of

1873
01:15:42,430 --> 01:15:39,560
searching found it because I mean I have

1874
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:42,440
hundreds of thousands of files and the

1875
01:15:46,330 --> 01:15:44,000
website itself so it's very tough to

1876
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find once I was able to track it down I

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talked to one of the leading antivirus

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companies out there arguably which is

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AVG and I talked to one of their main

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texts and they were the only software

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that actually detected this virus McAfee

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didn't Norton didn't no one else did AVG

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did and so once I got the code to them

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they said this was the most

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sophisticated strand of this particular

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virus they had ever seen and I have that

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all in writing so whether or not I was

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the unlucky schmuck that had got some

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kitty hacker from the middle of her

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chica Stan who decided to find some

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server vulnerability on the black vault

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I don't know maybe that's a big

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coincidence we have another coincidence

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to play out right now we have John

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Greenwald jr. joining gene and Chris

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people listen to GC and radio programs

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on over 700 AM and FM and XM stations

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system and all of our doors have dead

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bolts they kicked in our door and were

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in and out of our house in about 5

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minutes the police arrived in about 20

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01:19:05,650 --> 01:19:03,590
minutes but they were long gone with our

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01:19:08,050 --> 01:19:05,660
TV jewelry and my guns

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:08,060
I kept thinking what if my family had

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01:19:12,670 --> 01:19:10,250
been home the police officer said that

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01:19:15,250 --> 01:19:12,680
more than 85% of break-ins are through a

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door and the deadbolts alone don't stop

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intruders the officer told me to go to

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EZ armored net if we wanted something

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that would actually stop an intruder ez

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on your doors and is guaranteed to

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prevent kick ins I was surprised at how

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little easy armor costs and I installed

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ez armor in about 30 minutes visit easy

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armor that's eight eight eight five

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eight two seven six sixty-seven ez armor

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net ultimate door security made easy

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we can buy GMOs stressed out about money

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and blasted by the electric environment

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hi I'm pastor Ginny and that was the

1973
01:20:01,210 --> 01:19:58,880
state I was in back in 2010 then I

1974
01:20:03,730 --> 01:20:01,220
learned about RNA drops I learned that

1975
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:03,740
97% of my DNA that scientists have

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01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:05,840
called junk is actually packed with

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millions of gene switches that play a

1978
01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:09,470
critical role in controlling how my

1979
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:12,260
cells organs and other tissues behave I

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01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:13,850
learned I don't have to put up with

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disease decay or decline like I've been

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conditioned to believe I began taking

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free sample comm hi this is Don Ecker

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:55,640
and you are tuned into the para cast let

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01:21:00,370 --> 01:20:57,650
me tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

1996
01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:00,380
here that you probably won't hear

1997
01:21:06,940 --> 01:21:04,150
anywhere else hear that George snoring

1998
01:21:08,290 --> 01:21:06,950
John Greenwald jr. of the Black fall

1999
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:08,300
Tony and gene and Chris and the power

2000
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:10,250
cast who's talking about the time that

2001
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:12,080
his server was hacked you know we have a

2002
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:15,890
firewall up on our web server we have a

2003
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:17,930
dedicated web server running our sites

2004
01:21:22,270 --> 01:21:20,210
and forums and handling a lot of the

2005
01:21:24,820 --> 01:21:22,280
downloads of our shows that GCN doesn't

2006
01:21:27,850 --> 01:21:24,830
handle directly and every day I get

2007
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:27,860
emails from the firewall the software

2008
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:30,050
generates emails about attempted

2009
01:21:36,910 --> 01:21:33,650
intrusions of our server we get from 50

2010
01:21:38,770 --> 01:21:36,920
to 100 a day sometimes hundreds of

2011
01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:38,780
course yeah with a robust firewall

2012
01:21:43,630 --> 01:21:41,390
doesn't mean anything it's just one of

2013
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:43,640
those things and you put up with it do I

2014
01:21:48,010 --> 01:21:46,400
have a call on one occasion our sites

2015
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,020
were completely down because somebody

2016
01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:50,480
got in there and they it's very

2017
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:51,470
sophisticated

2018
01:21:55,870 --> 01:21:54,110
they basically change the link to the

2019
01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:55,880
server software which is something

2020
01:22:01,570 --> 01:21:58,370
called Apache so they change the link to

2021
01:22:04,450 --> 01:22:01,580
Apache the web server software that we

2022
01:22:06,970 --> 01:22:04,460
so the sites wouldn't come up now it was

2023
01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:06,980
an easy fix but it was a very silly

2024
01:22:11,530 --> 01:22:09,230
dirty trick if nothing else maybe they

2025
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:11,540
came from that block in Shanghai I just

2026
01:22:19,419 --> 01:22:15,530
saw article recently that it was some

2027
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:19,429
like in the 90s percent hacker attacks

2028
01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:21,050
are coming from this one particular

2029
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:25,880
block in Shanghai it said because a lot

2030
01:22:30,879 --> 01:22:28,010
of these hack attempts are done by these

2031
01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:30,889
you know 13 14 year-olds in countries

2032
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:32,630
where hacking is actually not illegal

2033
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:35,840
and that's what stuff you know you you

2034
01:22:39,340 --> 01:22:37,370
get these kids that can get into a

2035
01:22:42,189 --> 01:22:39,350
government system and it happened just a

2036
01:22:44,350 --> 01:22:42,199
few years ago where you know so I forget

2037
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:44,360
exactly what country it was but by the

2038
01:22:49,330 --> 01:22:47,090
the law of that particular country it

2039
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:49,340
was not cybercrime wasn't a crime

2040
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:51,170
you know they cooperated with the United

2041
01:22:55,540 --> 01:22:52,370
States military to get the information

2042
01:22:59,080 --> 01:22:55,550
back the United States decided not to

2043
01:23:00,520 --> 01:22:59,090
pursue any international crimes but the

2044
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:00,530
the country itself couldn't do anything

2045
01:23:05,260 --> 01:23:03,050
to this little kitty hacker because it

2046
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:05,270
wasn't illegal there's definitely a lot

2047
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:07,210
that has to be done with cybercrime

2048
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:09,650
because a and a lot of military

2049
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:12,290
strategists are saying this as well that

2050
01:23:15,790 --> 01:23:14,060
cybercrime is really the terrorism of

2051
01:23:18,459 --> 01:23:15,800
the future right I think you have to

2052
01:23:21,939 --> 01:23:18,469
really analyze how vulnerable are we

2053
01:23:24,340 --> 01:23:21,949
because I think we are so digitally

2054
01:23:26,050 --> 01:23:24,350
dependent on our cell phones our

2055
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:26,060
Facebook's our social networks are

2056
01:23:31,419 --> 01:23:29,449
checking in everywhere we go that you

2057
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:31,429
know the horrors of social networking is

2058
01:23:37,330 --> 01:23:33,770
a very evil topic that I love talking

2059
01:23:39,970 --> 01:23:37,340
about because it really I think is a

2060
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:39,980
very dangerous path our society is going

2061
01:23:43,209 --> 01:23:40,370
down

2062
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:43,219
Chris many more questions yeah here's

2063
01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:47,120
one this again is from Gugs Makai is

2064
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:49,790
there any document that you know exists

2065
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:51,650
that you've heard about and maybe

2066
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:54,770
perhaps someone has seen it that you

2067
01:23:59,500 --> 01:23:57,290
would love to get your hands on that you

2068
01:24:01,120 --> 01:23:59,510
have inquired yet is there any smoking

2069
01:24:03,399 --> 01:24:01,130
gun document that that you're pretty

2070
01:24:05,770 --> 01:24:03,409
sure exists out there that you really

2071
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:05,780
would like to like to get you know other

2072
01:24:10,899 --> 01:24:08,510
than your rising of a documents

2073
01:24:12,299 --> 01:24:10,909
existence no I can't say that there's

2074
01:24:14,669 --> 01:24:12,309
anything else

2075
01:24:17,549 --> 01:24:14,679
here's my quick response to leaked

2076
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:17,559
information and and stuff like WikiLeaks

2077
01:24:22,319 --> 01:24:19,840
or stuff that appears in somebody's

2078
01:24:25,469 --> 01:24:22,329
mailbox or you know something to that

2079
01:24:27,989 --> 01:24:25,479
effect I don't hold any weight truth or

2080
01:24:30,299 --> 01:24:27,999
validity to documents that do not come

2081
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:30,309
to me under a federal letterhead and the

2082
01:24:35,790 --> 01:24:32,590
reason is is because in this day and age

2083
01:24:39,899 --> 01:24:35,800
and even 20 years ago the ability to

2084
01:24:42,689 --> 01:24:39,909
fake a document is so easy you know

2085
01:24:45,779 --> 01:24:42,699
you'd go nuts trying to verify every

2086
01:24:47,279 --> 01:24:45,789
government document or alleged video or

2087
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:47,289
anything like that and that's out so

2088
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:50,320
where do you come down on mj-12 well if

2089
01:24:54,869 --> 01:24:52,239
I knew you'd probably go there pretty

2090
01:24:57,029 --> 01:24:54,879
quick here's the deal I've been friends

2091
01:24:59,459 --> 01:24:57,039
with with Stanton Friedman for a very

2092
01:25:00,959 --> 01:24:59,469
long time almost as long as I've been

2093
01:25:03,810 --> 01:25:00,969
doing the black vault so that's that's

2094
01:25:06,029 --> 01:25:03,820
going about 16 years and Stan's an

2095
01:25:07,949 --> 01:25:06,039
amazing researcher and and personal

2096
01:25:09,569 --> 01:25:07,959
friend the reason I say that is I've

2097
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:09,579
spent a lot of time looking at Stan's

2098
01:25:14,369 --> 01:25:12,369
research and if anybody's gonna prove it

2099
01:25:16,949 --> 01:25:14,379
it's him and I think he's got a lot of

2100
01:25:19,169 --> 01:25:16,959
evidence to that and and he spent a lot

2101
01:25:22,350 --> 01:25:19,179
of time investigating it do I personally

2102
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:22,360
believe the mj-12 documents are real I'm

2103
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:23,679
gonna be honest with you and say I'm not

2104
01:25:28,619 --> 01:25:26,530
a hundred percent I think there are some

2105
01:25:30,779 --> 01:25:28,629
coincidences absolutely there was some

2106
01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:30,789
official documents that may be mentioned

2107
01:25:37,979 --> 01:25:34,840
majestic and or an mj-12 does that mean

2108
01:25:40,529 --> 01:25:37,989
it's the same exact mj-12 I don't you

2109
01:25:42,869 --> 01:25:40,539
know I I don't know the fact that

2110
01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:42,879
Stanton Friedman is confident that it

2111
01:25:47,729 --> 01:25:45,129
does and confident that the mj-12

2112
01:25:49,949 --> 01:25:47,739
documents are real I don't say this

2113
01:25:52,139 --> 01:25:49,959
about many people in this field but if

2114
01:25:54,810 --> 01:25:52,149
Stan says it I believe it okay

2115
01:25:57,899 --> 01:25:54,820
this leads to yet another question from

2116
01:26:00,839 --> 01:25:57,909
from our fine poster guards do you have

2117
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:00,849
a particular stance pertaining to the

2118
01:26:05,009 --> 01:26:02,649
UFO question in other words are you a

2119
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:05,019
nuts and bolts guy or are you open to

2120
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:08,110
some more esoteric explanation I'm very

2121
01:26:11,310 --> 01:26:09,070
nuts and bolts

2122
01:26:14,219 --> 01:26:11,320
I've never seen anything myself never

2123
01:26:17,339 --> 01:26:14,229
had an exciting or experience but a very

2124
01:26:19,229 --> 01:26:17,349
nuts and bolts meaning I think that what

2125
01:26:21,119 --> 01:26:19,239
we're dealing with is in the physical

2126
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:21,129
realm it's something that we could touch

2127
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:24,129
one day I don't think it's spiritual or

2128
01:26:26,850 --> 01:26:25,210
I don't think it's

2129
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:26,860
the ninth dimension or anything like

2130
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:30,010
that and I believe that there's a lot of

2131
01:26:33,050 --> 01:26:31,090
science that comes with your

2132
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:33,060
extraterrestrials that are out there

2133
01:26:38,910 --> 01:26:35,170
hopefully that answered your question I

2134
01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:38,920
could keep going but I think that my

2135
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:41,590
surface answer for that in other words

2136
01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:43,360
yeah you are a nuts and bolts guy and

2137
01:26:48,209 --> 01:26:46,150
you know a person that has collected

2138
01:26:50,370 --> 01:26:48,219
over a half a million pages of

2139
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:50,380
government documents if you're not a

2140
01:26:54,780 --> 01:26:52,110
nuts and bolts guy you're crazy

2141
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:54,790
all right here's here's some questions

2142
01:27:00,030 --> 01:26:57,760
from Conrad Hartman who's again been

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opposed to it form dr. Perik ass calm

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and quite an active active participant

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as well on our forms what topics John

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with in ufology do you feel are

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01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:10,660
underreported and under discussed and

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conversely do you feel that there are

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any topics that have beaten into the

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ground and I add besides Roswell

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besides Roswell that was that was my

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answer you stole meaning beaten into the

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ground

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what about underreported stories and

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01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:28,390
under discussed do you do you feel that

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there are some cases out there or angles

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:33,580
on the subject that we're not up you

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01:27:38,459 --> 01:27:35,290
know addressing enough or putting enough

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01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:38,469
focus on well I I think the astronaut

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sightings and and the NASA videos are

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pretty fascinating whether or not they

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are true UFOs in the sense that it's

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showing extraterrestrial spacecraft or

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top-secret technology I'm not real sure

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but those to me I you know stand out and

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that's a that's an a personal opinion

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because I'm just kind of into that if

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the government is saying here you go and

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it's photographs or and or video I think

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there's there's something to that and I

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think that we should definitely look at

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it and not many people in the mainstream

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media not many journalists truly do I

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think really to answer that question

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honestly though I I've got to look at it

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look at the topic as a whole not

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necessarily a particular case on a

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particular game but the topic as a whole

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and I think that really what the media

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is missing is the magnitude and the

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frequency of sightings that are out

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there or are they all unexplainable no

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absolutely not

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majority of them are explainable that

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they are earth-based objects that could

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be top-secret technology or or something

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to that effect but there is a percentage

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even if it's a fraction of 1% of the

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cases that are out there

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are truly unidentified real and hold a

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strong possibility to their being an

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extraterrestrial connection that's still

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a very sizable number and I think that

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that's something that we need to look at

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as a whole but when you look at the main

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method for this information to get out

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there and that's namely the media when

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you look at the mainstream media the

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media channels that people actually want

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it's a very underreported topic they

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glom onto one UFO story maybe every two

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or three years and it's generally around

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a slow news time and it's generally like

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weeks after the events happened and what

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does that mean well it's a slow news day

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they have nothing else you know I work

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in television unfortunately that's how

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it worked you don't get a this just in

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breaking news and they interrupt your

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nightly program because a UFO is spotted

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over Phoenix or a UFO was spotted over

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DC they don't do that and I think that

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that's too bad because I think there are

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cases out there there are there is

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01:30:01,020 --> 01:29:57,929
physical evidence out there that

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warrants a scientific investigation and

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warns the media to really spotlight it

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and they just don't so you know nothing

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not to rule out any important cases

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going back to your question I just think

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it's the topic as a whole you really

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have to look at that that is what's

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underreported what happens of course is

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and Chris Chris has been asking the

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them in the question Bank at forum dr.

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one comes from Jeff Davis who's a fairly

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recent addition to the Peres Castform

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interesting questions one of which is

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have you ever come across genre a

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document that supports the notion that

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the United States is participating at a

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very confidential level within within an

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alternate United Nations Base space and

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Aeronautics technology program or one

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that has been publicly suppressed so I

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guess it's a question about some sort of

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Dolan ask breakaway civilization kind of

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secret space program is there any

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indication and all the FOI a material

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that you have been able to gather that

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we have a some sort of secret space

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development program I'll be honest I

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wish that conspiracy was true

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I really do i I unfortunately no I don't

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see any evidence to that and on the

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contrary see more evidence that the

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government is losing their interest in

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the space program altogether and that's

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not just because of the public company

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line they give about budget cuts and so

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on I just think that that's who's

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running our country that's our

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politicians no one namely it's just the

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majority of them do not see the value in

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the program so I don't see the black

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budget dollars going towards a secret UN

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space program I really wish it was true

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I've got a strong personal connection to

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the space program my father worked on

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the space shuttle and he was

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instrumental in when he saw the space

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shuttle takeoff the main engine what

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they call the ssme on the

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shuttle he was instrumental in making

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that work he was the one that built both

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every one of them was a weld engineer

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and yeah he's an amazing guy and my

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grandfather who unfortunately I never

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met was connected to the early days of

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the space programs with the working at

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Bell Aircraft with the bell x-1 and the

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bell x5 if you're familiar with those

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programs and working with rocket

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technology which led to the Saturn 5

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which gave us Apollo and the rest was

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history so yeah it's even aside for my

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personal connection and my passion for

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it I think it's a very important venture

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I think it's an endeavor we should not

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leave behind so we don't have secret

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bases on the moon we haven't already

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been to Mars that sort of thing you know

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and you basashi oh and Laura Eisenhower

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aside of course so so you feel that the

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government is telling us the complete

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extent to our technological

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accomplishments in space unfortunately

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that's one area I think the government

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probably is being honest about and that

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they said here you go here's what we

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discovered there's no point in going

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back and they're turning a lot of stuff

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to the private sector and I think with

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the most recent private launch with the

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one rocket that they you know had engine

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failures on the way up and it ended up

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not putting the satellite in the proper

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01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:24,889
orbit I think you know you're gonna have

2409
01:38:28,450 --> 01:38:28,010
the horrors of the space race all over

2410
01:38:31,180 --> 01:38:28,460
again

2411
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,190
and that's very scary when you look at

2412
01:38:35,379 --> 01:38:33,440
you know you look at the mission which

2413
01:38:37,169 --> 01:38:35,389
was later deemed Apollo 1 when we lost

2414
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:37,179
the three astronauts on the launch pad

2415
01:38:42,279 --> 01:38:40,130
simply because of a door lock the hatch

2416
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,289
didn't have the proper handle when you

2417
01:38:47,290 --> 01:38:44,960
look at events like that in history and

2418
01:38:48,580 --> 01:38:47,300
it is an amazing history but when you

2419
01:38:51,790 --> 01:38:48,590
look at that we've learned those lessons

2420
01:38:53,739 --> 01:38:51,800
and we moved on I think now if you try

2421
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:53,749
and push that all to the private sector

2422
01:38:57,129 --> 01:38:55,730
which I have a fan of but when you try

2423
01:38:59,680 --> 01:38:57,139
and push that all to the private sector

2424
01:39:01,299 --> 01:38:59,690
and then NASA just kind of you know

2425
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,309
falls to the wayside and they don't do

2426
01:39:03,700 --> 01:39:02,719
the space of exploration that they've

2427
01:39:05,500 --> 01:39:03,710
been doing with the shuttle program

2428
01:39:07,810 --> 01:39:05,510
you're gonna have a lot of those

2429
01:39:09,850 --> 01:39:07,820
mistakes all over again and I think it's

2430
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:09,860
it's going to be detrimental to the

2431
01:39:14,259 --> 01:39:12,170
point that yeah maybe it'll you know

2432
01:39:15,850 --> 01:39:14,269
it'll be this little seed of a budding

2433
01:39:18,129 --> 01:39:15,860
space program

2434
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:18,139
been funded by maybe Virgin Galactic or

2435
01:39:21,729 --> 01:39:20,239
all these billions and trillions areas

2436
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:21,739
that have more money than everything

2437
01:39:26,020 --> 01:39:24,170
below you know dream of they're more

2438
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:26,030
money than I have wow I wish I had a

2439
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:28,730
portion of that to invest but they but

2440
01:39:33,790 --> 01:39:30,650
they may plant that seed but it may

2441
01:39:38,169 --> 01:39:33,800
quickly die because they didn't have the

2442
01:39:40,689 --> 01:39:38,179
passion and the drive that that came

2443
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:40,699
along with the early stages of NASA now

2444
01:39:44,649 --> 01:39:42,290
it's all about corporate greed and how

2445
01:39:46,540 --> 01:39:44,659
much can we charge Kim Kardashian for

2446
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:46,550
her first space flight with her baby you

2447
01:39:49,780 --> 01:39:48,110
know I mean that's that's what it's

2448
01:39:52,540 --> 01:39:49,790
basically that's what it's kind of come

2449
01:39:54,609 --> 01:39:52,550
down to well how about fuel technology

2450
01:39:58,359 --> 01:39:54,619
how about R&D programs that are

2451
01:40:00,970 --> 01:39:58,369
producing potentially human you know

2452
01:40:03,609 --> 01:40:00,980
engineered flying triangles or large

2453
01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:03,619
aerial platforms that are being reported

2454
01:40:07,780 --> 01:40:05,590
more and more frequently around the

2455
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:07,790
especially in this country do you think

2456
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:11,210
that there is some sort of of exotic

2457
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:13,850
black project technology that's being

2458
01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:16,159
flown around and misidentified as UFO

2459
01:40:20,620 --> 01:40:19,310
yeah that that I believe now you're onto

2460
01:40:22,660 --> 01:40:20,630
something that I believe that they are

2461
01:40:24,220 --> 01:40:22,670
covering up and that is that top-secret

2462
01:40:27,399 --> 01:40:24,230
technology where they're pushing the

2463
01:40:29,140 --> 01:40:27,409
envelope on you know what is that next

2464
01:40:31,689 --> 01:40:29,150
top-secret aircraft that they could

2465
01:40:35,050 --> 01:40:31,699
develop it can go Mach X you know how

2466
01:40:36,939 --> 01:40:35,060
fast can they get it to go and that's

2467
01:40:39,129 --> 01:40:36,949
where I think a lot of the black budget

2468
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:39,139
dollars are going and I think that

2469
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:43,010
that's obviously easily provable not to

2470
01:40:47,020 --> 01:40:45,290
bring up the bin Laden raid again but

2471
01:40:48,910 --> 01:40:47,030
when you look at what happened during

2472
01:40:51,250 --> 01:40:48,920
the bin Laden raid well they use

2473
01:40:52,990 --> 01:40:51,260
top-secret stealth helicopters that had

2474
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:53,000
never been acknowledged before and

2475
01:40:57,399 --> 01:40:55,610
really kind of never rumored before if I

2476
01:40:59,080 --> 01:40:57,409
and I couldn't stand correct it if

2477
01:41:01,240 --> 01:40:59,090
somebody knows that they were talking

2478
01:41:03,459 --> 01:41:01,250
about this type of technology but these

2479
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:03,469
were no cheap pieces of equipment and

2480
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:06,409
yet we go into a country that is our

2481
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:08,570
ally we're not at war with and we send

2482
01:41:12,970 --> 01:41:10,310
some of our most top-secret technology

2483
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:12,980
now what's my point while my point is is

2484
01:41:18,129 --> 01:41:15,770
that we have absolutely no idea what

2485
01:41:20,050 --> 01:41:18,139
these guys have that's flying in the air

2486
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:20,060
we have no idea what's on the drawing

2487
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:21,920
boards and we have no idea what's gonna

2488
01:41:26,740 --> 01:41:24,530
be flying next week and and that's where

2489
01:41:28,649 --> 01:41:26,750
I believe a lot of these UFO sightings

2490
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,659
can be explained

2491
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:30,159
that's the rational way to look at it

2492
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:31,960
but also I think that that's what

2493
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:33,850
they're they're actively covering up or

2494
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:35,650
at least a portion thereof well that

2495
01:41:39,780 --> 01:41:37,090
would take us back to Roswell because

2496
01:41:41,970 --> 01:41:39,790
Roswell could have been an early sort of

2497
01:41:43,229 --> 01:41:41,980
test aircraft I don't I don't disagree

2498
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:43,239
with you there but where I would

2499
01:41:47,070 --> 01:41:45,130
probably be devil's advocate and say

2500
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:47,080
that that's not true is here we are in

2501
01:41:52,979 --> 01:41:51,070
2013 and we are still yet given an

2502
01:41:54,780 --> 01:41:52,989
explanation and when you look at all the

2503
01:41:57,390 --> 01:41:54,790
other top-secret technology that took

2504
01:42:01,200 --> 01:41:57,400
decades for them to plan plot test at

2505
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:01,210
area 51 at White Sands New Mexico the

2506
01:42:06,209 --> 01:42:04,030
average is I arguably about 30-40 years

2507
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:06,219
for that technology to be declassified

2508
01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:08,650
and look at how much time has passed

2509
01:42:12,810 --> 01:42:10,750
since Roswell and we've gotten so many

2510
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:12,820
different explanations for the last time

2511
01:42:18,330 --> 01:42:15,520
I counted official explanation from the

2512
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:18,340
government and military that if that

2513
01:42:22,530 --> 01:42:20,710
were to be true we would have learned

2514
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:22,540
about it by now and they would have

2515
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:25,510
given us some kind of indication hey

2516
01:42:31,649 --> 01:42:28,719
this is what happened at Roswell and

2517
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:31,659
then we could go oh now we get it but

2518
01:42:35,879 --> 01:42:33,550
that's never happened unless that led to

2519
01:42:37,740 --> 01:42:35,889
other technological breakthroughs that

2520
01:42:39,330 --> 01:42:37,750
they don't want to reveal you know there

2521
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:39,340
could be a chain of evidence there they

2522
01:42:43,229 --> 01:42:41,110
don't want to open up that can of worms

2523
01:42:47,010 --> 01:42:43,239
I'm not saying that's the possibility

2524
01:42:48,270 --> 01:42:47,020
it's one because we really don't know we

2525
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:48,280
don't know and it's absolutely a

2526
01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:49,810
possibility but again there's so much

2527
01:42:54,810 --> 01:42:52,840
heat on them for lying for so many years

2528
01:42:56,610 --> 01:42:54,820
I think there's that breaking point

2529
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,620
where they should just say look guys

2530
01:43:00,180 --> 01:42:58,719
let's just get this conspiracy to rest

2531
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:00,190
and we'll start fighting the other ones

2532
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,290
here this is what it was it was project

2533
01:43:09,090 --> 01:43:05,199
XYZ and they released that well he's

2534
01:43:11,399 --> 01:43:09,100
closed right again case closed again in

2535
01:43:12,959 --> 01:43:11,409
parentheses you have to add me again and

2536
01:43:14,850 --> 01:43:12,969
then they released that final

2537
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:14,860
explanation I I would think that they

2538
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:16,330
would want to get the heat off of them

2539
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,040
but instead they just keep digging the

2540
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:20,080
hole even deeper well you know we have

2541
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:22,030
assume here that the government is

2542
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:24,489
competent yeah it's a very big large

2543
01:43:28,860 --> 01:43:26,530
assumption and yes we do a lot of things

2544
01:43:31,169 --> 01:43:28,870
right but it's also true that they do a

2545
01:43:33,390 --> 01:43:31,179
lot of screwball things that's right

2546
01:43:34,530 --> 01:43:33,400
yeah that is a big thing to me well I

2547
01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:34,540
haven't I have a question here from

2548
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:37,510
Ricky hua who's been a longtime poster

2549
01:43:42,879 --> 01:43:40,070
at forum dr. Perik asked calm and

2550
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:42,889
this is news to me John I'm not sure

2551
01:43:47,740 --> 01:43:45,710
where he got this question from but can

2552
01:43:49,959 --> 01:43:47,750
you tell us about the documents you got

2553
01:43:51,850 --> 01:43:49,969
from the Obama administration where

2554
01:43:54,609 --> 01:43:51,860
cabinet members were discussing

2555
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:54,619
quote-unquote alien implants and dr.

2556
01:44:00,459 --> 01:43:58,010
Roger Lear's research huh yeah that was

2557
01:44:01,839 --> 01:44:00,469
kind of an interesting fine and in fact

2558
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:01,849
while we're talking here because I

2559
01:44:04,450 --> 01:44:03,110
didn't see that question or I'd be a

2560
01:44:06,370 --> 01:44:04,460
little bit more prepared for it but

2561
01:44:08,379 --> 01:44:06,380
under the Freedom of Information Act

2562
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:08,389
just to kind of give a little bit of

2563
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:11,360
background you can request electronic

2564
01:44:17,589 --> 01:44:15,110
records and that includes emails and I

2565
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,599
think that one of the one of the finds

2566
01:44:21,729 --> 01:44:19,520
that really kind of got a lot of

2567
01:44:25,180 --> 01:44:21,739
attention was the fact that internally

2568
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:25,190
there were some emails that were talking

2569
01:44:31,089 --> 01:44:28,610
about doctor leaders implants and his

2570
01:44:34,540 --> 01:44:31,099
research now this is what I'm gonna say

2571
01:44:37,209 --> 01:44:34,550
and I believe Larry Lowe of the examiner

2572
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:37,219
if I believe I have that correct was the

2573
01:44:43,689 --> 01:44:40,010
one that kind of originally reported on

2574
01:44:46,209 --> 01:44:43,699
this that it was more of an email and a

2575
01:44:48,879 --> 01:44:46,219
discussion it's not like they wrote the

2576
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:48,889
articles and Larry was the author of the

2577
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:50,570
original piece that they had forwarded

2578
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:54,650
around internally and and that's kind of

2579
01:44:59,800 --> 01:44:57,170
where this whole thing kind of blew up I

2580
01:45:02,350 --> 01:44:59,810
think it may be a little bit bigger than

2581
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:02,360
what it sounds I think that this was

2582
01:45:07,359 --> 01:45:05,449
just an internal email but nothing

2583
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:07,369
nothing really came of it to be honest

2584
01:45:12,910 --> 01:45:10,880
with you nothing really there was really

2585
01:45:15,850 --> 01:45:12,920
nothing to report it was it just came up

2586
01:45:17,530 --> 01:45:15,860
in the electronic records we have to

2587
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:17,540
come up with this with Gene and Kris

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[Applause]

2639
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:49,750
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2640
01:48:02,130 --> 01:47:54,090
standard of paranormal radio and now

2641
01:48:04,050 --> 01:48:02,140
here's Jean Steinberg with Jean and

2642
01:48:06,570 --> 01:48:04,060
Kristen the para cast John Greenwald

2643
01:48:09,930 --> 01:48:06,580
junior of the black vault and the black

2644
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:09,940
vault comm is answering listeners your

2645
01:48:15,210 --> 01:48:11,890
questions so many we're talking about

2646
01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:15,220
this particular set of documents about

2647
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:18,940
alien implants any more to say before we

2648
01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:21,010
go to our next question John yeah very

2649
01:48:25,650 --> 01:48:22,360
quickly I think what a lot of people

2650
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:25,660
don't realize is that when you work for

2651
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:27,130
the military work for the government and

2652
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:28,690
you use their servers to send an email

2653
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:31,210
about it that becomes public record and

2654
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:33,850
official documentation and you could

2655
01:48:37,770 --> 01:48:36,010
request that under a law that Clinton

2656
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:37,780
passed called the electronic freedom of

2657
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:40,570
information act which then included all

2658
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:42,250
this electronic and digital read these

2659
01:48:46,710 --> 01:48:45,040
electronic and digital records so you do

2660
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:46,720
find stuff like this where somebody can

2661
01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:48,130
be talking about their lunch or

2662
01:48:54,150 --> 01:48:51,430
Starbucks or in this case you know dr.

2663
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:54,160
Roger Lehrer and his amazing work no

2664
01:48:58,050 --> 01:48:56,650
conspiracy behind it which shows that at

2665
01:48:59,670 --> 01:48:58,060
least people internally are sending

2666
01:49:01,800 --> 01:48:59,680
emails about it but that's that's about

2667
01:49:03,690 --> 01:49:01,810
as far as it go okay here's here's a

2668
01:49:06,510 --> 01:49:03,700
question from Ezekiel who's been a

2669
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:06,520
longtime poster at forum dr. Peric ascom

2670
01:49:11,850 --> 01:49:09,730
and it's one that I I would like to hear

2671
01:49:13,650 --> 01:49:11,860
the answer to what is your most

2672
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:13,660
compelling document that you've been

2673
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:17,920
able to to uncover today in regards to

2674
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:21,130
UFOs I'm guessing I don't know it all

2675
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:24,610
depends on what floats your John okay

2676
01:49:29,220 --> 01:49:26,290
well I mean I will stick with UFOs I

2677
01:49:31,650 --> 01:49:29,230
mentioned the Air Force manual 10-2 0-6

2678
01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:31,660
I'd to me that's a very compelling a

2679
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:33,790
story another one that I bring up a lot

2680
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:35,890
is not one that I discovered for the

2681
01:49:38,970 --> 01:49:37,450
first time meaning it had been out in

2682
01:49:42,210 --> 01:49:38,980
the public domain but this was the

2683
01:49:45,090 --> 01:49:42,220
four-page document on the 1976 Iran

2684
01:49:47,940 --> 01:49:45,100
incident and this to me I think number

2685
01:49:50,250 --> 01:49:47,950
one is a fascinating story and one that

2686
01:49:53,480 --> 01:49:50,260
displays technology that we don't even

2687
01:49:57,150 --> 01:49:53,490
have today that I believe really shows

2688
01:49:58,410 --> 01:49:57,160
the extent of a cover-up meaning why is

2689
01:50:00,419 --> 01:49:58,420
it important to keep

2690
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:00,429
these stories under wraps but on top of

2691
01:50:05,070 --> 01:50:03,130
all that I it's what got me started in

2692
01:50:07,740 --> 01:50:05,080
the black vault this was the first

2693
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:07,750
document that I had ever received under

2694
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:09,730
the Freedom of Information Act and the

2695
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:11,350
quick back story is that I discovered it

2696
01:50:17,490 --> 01:50:13,690
online it was one of the very few

2697
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:17,500
documents in 1995-1996 that was actually

2698
01:50:24,209 --> 01:50:20,770
online and it talked about this UFO over

2699
01:50:27,209 --> 01:50:24,219
the city of Tehran and it shut down two

2700
01:50:28,979 --> 01:50:27,219
separate f4 phantom jets meaning took

2701
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:28,989
away their controls and communications

2702
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:31,570
you can only explain it to be in the

2703
01:50:36,180 --> 01:50:34,480
sci-fi realm a mothership now why do I

2704
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:36,190
say that because the document said it

2705
01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:38,110
had a second UFO come out from

2706
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:40,900
underneath it a third UFO come out from

2707
01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:43,330
the side of it these were actually

2708
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:46,150
intelligent craft because according to

2709
01:50:51,689 --> 01:50:48,910
the document the one UFO that came out

2710
01:50:55,110 --> 01:50:51,699
of the original object actually flew

2711
01:50:57,450 --> 01:50:55,120
around the f4 phantom jet meaning

2712
01:51:00,060 --> 01:50:57,460
physically around it flew it had

2713
01:51:02,430 --> 01:51:00,070
intelligent control so when you look at

2714
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:02,440
this and you read it and you go wow this

2715
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:05,440
isn't an early x-files episode this is

2716
01:51:09,209 --> 01:51:07,330
something that's documented in the

2717
01:51:11,550 --> 01:51:09,219
United States military that's

2718
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:11,560
fascinating and that's one one document

2719
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:14,710
that's just a four-page document and I

2720
01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:17,050
think it's an obviously the story goes

2721
01:51:20,220 --> 01:51:18,910
in much more depth than the four pages I

2722
01:51:24,180 --> 01:51:20,230
was just trying to summarize it for you

2723
01:51:25,470 --> 01:51:24,190
but that to me is fascinating and in

2724
01:51:27,959 --> 01:51:25,480
something that I think many people

2725
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:27,969
should look at and see that that

2726
01:51:32,669 --> 01:51:30,489
document alone proves that there is

2727
01:51:35,459 --> 01:51:32,679
technology out there that we just cannot

2728
01:51:37,939 --> 01:51:35,469
explain because to date no one has been

2729
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:37,949
ever able to explain what happened in

2730
01:51:44,430 --> 01:51:41,650
1976 in Iran and I'm sure you familiar

2731
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:44,440
with Ron Regehr who was involved with

2732
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:47,290
the optics program of optics side of our

2733
01:51:52,110 --> 01:51:50,170
space program he heeds has done some

2734
01:51:54,630 --> 01:51:52,120
digging in this particular event and

2735
01:51:58,050 --> 01:51:54,640
he's come up with corroborating evidence

2736
01:52:00,270 --> 01:51:58,060
to suggest that they the reports as they

2737
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:00,280
were filed were and the events as they

2738
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:02,960
were described were it was a real event

2739
01:52:07,300 --> 01:52:05,330
on his sort of back-channel research

2740
01:52:09,790 --> 01:52:07,310
well you mentioned that that you feel

2741
01:52:11,770 --> 01:52:09,800
that these are nuts-and-bolts craft what

2742
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:11,780
is your current opinion on the UFO

2743
01:52:16,810 --> 01:52:14,210
subject again this is from Ezekiel in

2744
01:52:19,150 --> 01:52:16,820
your mind is it a phenomena that still

2745
01:52:22,350 --> 01:52:19,160
requires much more data to interpret or

2746
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,360
are you at a stage where you are 99.9%

2747
01:52:26,620 --> 01:52:24,800
convinced that some events are due to

2748
01:52:28,450 --> 01:52:26,630
beings traveling to our planet from

2749
01:52:30,700 --> 01:52:28,460
other solar systems in nuts-and-bolts

2750
01:52:33,250 --> 01:52:30,710
craft quote-unquote or is there some

2751
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:33,260
other sort of unknown dimensional

2752
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:36,400
component to this affair etc etc I've

2753
01:52:42,430 --> 01:52:40,250
structured my lecture at the UFO

2754
01:52:44,530 --> 01:52:42,440
Congress this year over that very

2755
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:44,540
question not to repeat myself but I've

2756
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:47,360
never seen anything I've never had that

2757
01:52:50,050 --> 01:52:48,050
experience

2758
01:52:51,729 --> 01:52:50,060
so being a nuts-and-bolts kind of guy I

2759
01:52:53,170 --> 01:52:51,739
need that experience to say I'm a

2760
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:53,180
hundred percent convinced they're above

2761
01:52:58,630 --> 01:52:55,730
our heads they meaning extraterrestrial

2762
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:58,640
but what I will say is that I am 99.9%

2763
01:53:03,490 --> 01:53:01,280
convinced meaning I've looked at the

2764
01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:03,500
science and I've I've been able you

2765
01:53:08,110 --> 01:53:04,760
mentioned my resume in the very

2766
01:53:10,180 --> 01:53:08,120
beginning I have been very very lucky to

2767
01:53:12,580 --> 01:53:10,190
not only work in television but work in

2768
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:12,590
television programs that actually you

2769
01:53:16,900 --> 01:53:14,719
learn something from I don't want to

2770
01:53:18,700 --> 01:53:16,910
take away from any show out there if you

2771
01:53:20,860 --> 01:53:18,710
like the reality shows where you're

2772
01:53:22,990 --> 01:53:20,870
looking at the list celebrities lives

2773
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:23,000
and how they argue with their boyfriend

2774
01:53:27,340 --> 01:53:25,489
or whatever I don't work on those types

2775
01:53:29,530 --> 01:53:27,350
of programs I work on documentaries I

2776
01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:29,540
work on nonfiction and I've been very

2777
01:53:36,250 --> 01:53:32,450
lucky to talk with some of the top minds

2778
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:36,260
in astronomy and a strobe eye ology that

2779
01:53:42,010 --> 01:53:38,980
have worked at JPL that work at JPL NASA

2780
01:53:43,959 --> 01:53:42,020
even the SETI Institute and the reason I

2781
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:43,969
bring that up is and the why and why I

2782
01:53:49,180 --> 01:53:46,400
structured my lecture this way is that I

2783
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:49,190
tell my journey as not being anybody I'm

2784
01:53:54,130 --> 01:53:52,010
just a Joe Schmo but I was thrown into

2785
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:54,140
this topic to answer that question are

2786
01:53:59,440 --> 01:53:56,570
they above our heads are these connected

2787
01:54:01,630 --> 01:53:59,450
to extraterrestrials or is this simply

2788
01:54:03,970 --> 01:54:01,640
just entertainment is this entertainment

2789
01:54:06,220 --> 01:54:03,980
for Hollywood on the big screen is this

2790
01:54:08,530 --> 01:54:06,230
entertainment for television what is it

2791
01:54:10,750 --> 01:54:08,540
and so I've dove into the science I've

2792
01:54:12,970 --> 01:54:10,760
dove into the media connection with my

2793
01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:12,980
personal experiences and you know when

2794
01:54:19,290 --> 01:54:14,710
you take all of that and you

2795
01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:19,300
all together which in I guess 75 minutes

2796
01:54:23,250 --> 01:54:21,070
is what they're giving me for the

2797
01:54:25,410 --> 01:54:23,260
lecture what I've done all of that in

2798
01:54:28,979 --> 01:54:25,420
the lecture is bring it all together and

2799
01:54:31,979 --> 01:54:28,989
just to use common sense logic and our

2800
01:54:33,479 --> 01:54:31,989
understanding of reality just that you

2801
01:54:36,630 --> 01:54:33,489
don't have to be a mathematician or

2802
01:54:38,850 --> 01:54:36,640
scientist or some genius just use logic

2803
01:54:42,510 --> 01:54:38,860
common sense and our understanding of

2804
01:54:43,740 --> 01:54:42,520
what reality is you can't deny that

2805
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:43,750
there's an extraterrestrial connection

2806
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:45,520
you just can't you can take any

2807
01:54:49,110 --> 01:54:47,050
skeptical argument blow it out of the

2808
01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:49,120
water and that's how I structured the

2809
01:54:52,979 --> 01:54:51,070
lecture so being the nuts and bolts guy

2810
01:54:55,979 --> 01:54:52,989
I'm not a hundred percent there because

2811
01:54:58,020 --> 01:54:55,989
I don't have the experience but I can

2812
01:55:00,419 --> 01:54:58,030
say confidently that if you really take

2813
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,429
some time and look at the topic and all

2814
01:55:05,370 --> 01:55:02,320
the different facets of this topic I

2815
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:05,380
think it's pretty easy to prove that

2816
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:07,150
there's something going on well that

2817
01:55:11,790 --> 01:55:09,250
kind of dovetails to another question

2818
01:55:13,950 --> 01:55:11,800
from our Duke who's been a longtime

2819
01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:13,960
poster at the pair of Cass this question

2820
01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:15,190
has given your extensive and

2821
01:55:19,979 --> 01:55:17,830
long-standing work with foi a and other

2822
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:19,989
governmental material which of it do you

2823
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:21,730
feel is a hundred percent genuine in

2824
01:55:25,890 --> 01:55:23,770
smoking evidence of contact with

2825
01:55:28,979 --> 01:55:25,900
something other than mankind now you

2826
01:55:30,959 --> 01:55:28,989
mentioned the 76 Tehran event which I

2827
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:30,969
think is one of the most compelling UFO

2828
01:55:36,890 --> 01:55:34,000
cases in my own personal estimation but

2829
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:36,900
if these documents exist in a verifiable

2830
01:55:42,510 --> 01:55:39,760
how could they be better brought forth

2831
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:42,520
into you know for public attention and

2832
01:55:47,490 --> 01:55:44,770
are there other cases and documents that

2833
01:55:49,169 --> 01:55:47,500
you feel are slam-dunk evidence that

2834
01:55:51,930 --> 01:55:49,179
were being visited by extraterrestrials

2835
01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:51,940
I wouldn't call it slam-dunk hundred

2836
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:54,190
percent proof because I think that if

2837
01:55:59,580 --> 01:55:57,130
that was out there you would probably

2838
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:59,590
see it more on the media and you you

2839
01:56:05,459 --> 01:56:01,360
know if I had it I would be on

2840
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:05,469
television I would be on I'm sorry he

2841
01:56:10,860 --> 01:56:08,080
said smoking gun smoking gun evidence

2842
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:10,870
yeah I would even rephrase it to say the

2843
01:56:16,110 --> 01:56:12,400
exact same thing I don't think that the

2844
01:56:20,430 --> 01:56:16,120
smoking gun yet is there this is a huge

2845
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:20,440
puzzle to me and I think that everybody

2846
01:56:24,540 --> 01:56:22,870
has to look at it as just that a puzzle

2847
01:56:25,890 --> 01:56:24,550
because the minute you start putting

2848
01:56:28,050 --> 01:56:25,900
these pieces of the puzzle together

2849
01:56:29,850 --> 01:56:28,060
because you can't just look at one piece

2850
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:29,860
here in one piece there you got to start

2851
01:56:32,730 --> 01:56:31,570
putting it together you start putting

2852
01:56:34,830 --> 01:56:32,740
the pieces together and you get a

2853
01:56:36,090 --> 01:56:34,840
picture and you start to understand a

2854
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:36,100
little bit more and you look at it go ah

2855
01:56:41,010 --> 01:56:38,650
that's it and then you realize one other

2856
01:56:42,810 --> 01:56:41,020
very important fact and that picture

2857
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:42,820
that you just put together is actually

2858
01:56:47,370 --> 01:56:45,520
only a piece to a bigger puzzle and and

2859
01:56:49,140 --> 01:56:47,380
it just keeps growing and growing and I

2860
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:49,150
think that that's that's what we're

2861
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:52,090
currently faced with when it comes to

2862
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:54,880
the UFO phenomena I mean no offense to

2863
01:56:59,340 --> 01:56:56,650
any other investigator or researcher out

2864
01:57:00,570 --> 01:56:59,350
there but if somebody claims to have the

2865
01:57:03,210 --> 01:57:00,580
smoking gun

2866
01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:03,220
they're lying because there's no reason

2867
01:57:08,850 --> 01:57:06,220
for them to not be able to prove it now

2868
01:57:11,340 --> 01:57:08,860
they may have amazing evidence they may

2869
01:57:14,010 --> 01:57:11,350
have amazing stories they may have an

2870
01:57:16,650 --> 01:57:14,020
amazing experience they may have some

2871
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:16,660
physical proof but you don't have that

2872
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:19,450
smoking gun there yet I've never seen it

2873
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:21,760
if anybody out there has it and thinks

2874
01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:24,250
that I'm full of it by all means let me

2875
01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:27,310
know it alone send in the clowns send in

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the smoking guns we'll take them John

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Greenwald jr. joining Gina and Chris

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creatures from the darkest corners of

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the mind roam the earth is there

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para cast comm yes basically we're

2971
02:02:09,990 --> 02:02:05,679
hearing Chris after he smokes a few

2972
02:02:13,089 --> 02:02:10,000
smoking guns is that what causes it I

2973
02:02:14,859 --> 02:02:13,099
don't want to hear I absolutely agree

2974
02:02:17,379 --> 02:02:14,869
with John I think that there's a lot of

2975
02:02:19,089 --> 02:02:17,389
documents that have been gathered over

2976
02:02:22,030 --> 02:02:19,099
the years of course John has done an

2977
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:22,040
admirable job of being a repository for

2978
02:02:27,629 --> 02:02:23,810
many of these documents if not most of

2979
02:02:29,859 --> 02:02:27,639
them but I agree John I don't see the

2980
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:29,869
smoking gun document that proves

2981
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:33,770
definitively the identity or even the

2982
02:02:40,390 --> 02:02:37,010
the type of intelligence that may be

2983
02:02:44,050 --> 02:02:40,400
behind these enigmatic objects that defy

2984
02:02:45,939 --> 02:02:44,060
our level of physics and one thing that

2985
02:02:47,740 --> 02:02:45,949
I'm I've always been interested in with

2986
02:02:50,229 --> 02:02:47,750
the foi a process that you've been

2987
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:50,239
undergoing is is the the cattle

2988
02:02:54,550 --> 02:02:52,400
mutilation phenomenon you have been able

2989
02:02:56,439 --> 02:02:54,560
to uncover some pretty interesting

2990
02:02:58,030 --> 02:02:56,449
documents there including a tegu of one

2991
02:03:00,850 --> 02:02:58,040
of the first people to have the FBI

2992
02:03:03,010 --> 02:03:00,860
files related to that subject on your

2993
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:03,020
website what do you feel about that

2994
02:03:06,939 --> 02:03:06,170
particular topic and as a follow up from

2995
02:03:09,399 --> 02:03:06,949
Jeff Davis

2996
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:09,409
how about holographic projection

2997
02:03:16,540 --> 02:03:12,650
technology have you ever encountered

2998
02:03:18,370 --> 02:03:16,550
anything in that realm as well well to

2999
02:03:21,609 --> 02:03:18,380
your point on cattle mutilations I mean

3000
02:03:24,069 --> 02:03:21,619
that I find as a fascinating topic I

3001
02:03:27,250 --> 02:03:24,079
wouldn't say that it is my personal

3002
02:03:29,290 --> 02:03:27,260
number one research drive I'm the first

3003
02:03:31,450 --> 02:03:29,300
to admit I am NOT the most educated on

3004
02:03:34,060 --> 02:03:31,460
that very topic but I've spent some time

3005
02:03:35,169 --> 02:03:34,070
to look at it enough to realize you know

3006
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:35,179
there's got to be something to it

3007
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:36,800
because when you have these cases and

3008
02:03:40,209 --> 02:03:38,090
these are the ones that fascinate me

3009
02:03:43,030 --> 02:03:40,219
where you have these cases of cattle

3010
02:03:44,709 --> 02:03:43,040
mutilated during the winter on a farm

3011
02:03:46,810 --> 02:03:44,719
that's covered in snow

3012
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:46,820
and they're found in the middle of the

3013
02:03:52,570 --> 02:03:50,090
snow you know a hundred yards out with

3014
02:03:54,580 --> 02:03:52,580
snow hundred yards all around with

3015
02:03:55,930 --> 02:03:54,590
evidence of tracks or anything and it

3016
02:03:58,510 --> 02:03:55,940
looks like they were just dropped in the

3017
02:04:00,220 --> 02:03:58,520
field and I remember another case and

3018
02:04:02,590 --> 02:04:00,230
Chris you're obviously much more

3019
02:04:03,700 --> 02:04:02,600
educated on this topic than I am maybe

3020
02:04:06,970 --> 02:04:03,710
you can help me out in this particular

3021
02:04:10,900 --> 02:04:06,980
case but I recall one where the cow was

3022
02:04:14,140 --> 02:04:10,910
found seemingly dropped on to a fence

3023
02:04:15,820 --> 02:04:14,150
post and the and it was impaled from the

3024
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:15,830
backside up meaning it was dropped

3025
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:18,170
upside down I don't know if you remember

3026
02:04:22,330 --> 02:04:20,210
this case or not but I found that one

3027
02:04:24,460 --> 02:04:22,340
fascinating it's always stuck in my head

3028
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:24,470
so I think that with cattle mutilations

3029
02:04:28,330 --> 02:04:26,330
there's there's definitely something to

3030
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:28,340
that are a lot of them possibly

3031
02:04:33,730 --> 02:04:31,130
explainable yeah I do believe that like

3032
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:33,740
UFOs most of them are actually yeah and

3033
02:04:38,590 --> 02:04:37,250
and yeah exactly so I think that we have

3034
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:38,600
to take that into account but there are

3035
02:04:42,340 --> 02:04:40,970
those percentage of cases that kind of

3036
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:42,350
make you scratch your head and go hey

3037
02:04:46,060 --> 02:04:44,090
wait a minute one of the first shows I

3038
02:04:48,370 --> 02:04:46,070
ever did for History Channel as a

3039
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:48,380
producer was on cattle mutilations and

3040
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:51,110
we got to go out into the field and we

3041
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:53,450
got to actually let me preface the

3042
02:04:56,590 --> 02:04:54,770
surgery quickly we were doing a

3043
02:04:58,720 --> 02:04:56,600
historical documentary meaning just on

3044
02:05:01,840 --> 02:04:58,730
the history of it and as we were in

3045
02:05:04,300 --> 02:05:01,850
production we got a telephone call about

3046
02:05:07,810 --> 02:05:04,310
a cattle mutilation in Farnum Nebraska

3047
02:05:10,210 --> 02:05:07,820
and it just so happened to to happen

3048
02:05:12,820 --> 02:05:10,220
that that that week that we were writing

3049
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:12,830
this show it was a pure coincidence so

3050
02:05:17,950 --> 02:05:15,050
needless to say we redevelop the entire

3051
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:17,960
show within hours went out and then we

3052
02:05:21,070 --> 02:05:19,850
created this show for history like I

3053
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:21,080
said it was one of the first first shows

3054
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:22,850
I worked on but it was very interesting

3055
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:25,010
to kind of see the raw video the stuff

3056
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,290
that was too vulgar for television of

3057
02:05:32,500 --> 02:05:29,360
these cattle that were mutilated out on

3058
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:32,510
this farm and while my boss was actually

3059
02:05:36,220 --> 02:05:34,850
out shooting I was just saying what they

3060
02:05:39,130 --> 02:05:36,230
call an Associate Producer on this

3061
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:39,140
particular project the show producer was

3062
02:05:46,030 --> 02:05:41,530
the one out shooting they went out and

3063
02:05:47,590 --> 02:05:46,040
filmed of the cattle mutilation the cow

3064
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:47,600
that was down still in the field

3065
02:05:52,150 --> 02:05:50,330
and so they kind of wrap up the day they

3066
02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:52,160
go and they're about to have some some

3067
02:05:57,970 --> 02:05:54,040
dinner and they get a phone call that

3068
02:06:00,580 --> 02:05:57,980
the next farm over about five miles down

3069
02:06:02,620 --> 02:06:00,590
the road just had another cattle

3070
02:06:04,780 --> 02:06:02,630
mutilation so they hopped into the car

3071
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:04,790
packed up all the cameras drove down the

3072
02:06:08,890 --> 02:06:05,840
street and sure

3073
02:06:10,930 --> 02:06:08,900
filmed a second cow that was down so it

3074
02:06:12,669 --> 02:06:10,940
was very interesting to see this all

3075
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:12,679
play out because it's not something that

3076
02:06:16,810 --> 02:06:15,170
you can convey on television and say

3077
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:16,820
yeah we were doing a different show but

3078
02:06:19,810 --> 02:06:18,290
then we had to rewrite it all because

3079
02:06:22,479 --> 02:06:19,820
this happened oh this happens you just

3080
02:06:23,950 --> 02:06:22,489
kind of have to tell a story in 44

3081
02:06:26,260 --> 02:06:23,960
minutes for a one-hour show you only

3082
02:06:28,780 --> 02:06:26,270
have 44 minutes to tell it so you're

3083
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:28,790
very limited but the back story to me is

3084
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:31,010
it just adds to that interesting factor

3085
02:06:34,750 --> 02:06:33,110
the cattle mutilations because you know

3086
02:06:37,419 --> 02:06:34,760
there are those cases out there that you

3087
02:06:38,859 --> 02:06:37,429
just simply can't explain now the second

3088
02:06:41,770 --> 02:06:38,869
part of your question the hologram

3089
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:41,780
technology the holographic technology if

3090
02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:43,730
I understand it correctly I'm guessing

3091
02:06:48,220 --> 02:06:45,310
you're talking about the next generation

3092
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:48,230
stealth is that do you think Chris that

3093
02:06:53,140 --> 02:06:51,110
that's yeah as it relates to these large

3094
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:53,150
flying platforms that may be some sort

3095
02:06:56,830 --> 02:06:54,530
of projections and of course it

3096
02:06:59,859 --> 02:06:56,840
dovetails into the to the whole Serge

3097
02:07:01,870 --> 02:06:59,869
Minh asked sort of mid-90s idea of a

3098
02:07:04,060 --> 02:07:01,880
Project Blue Beam and you know

3099
02:07:06,010 --> 02:07:04,070
holographic rejections of Muhammad in

3100
02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:06,020
the sky or something yeah I haven't

3101
02:07:10,810 --> 02:07:08,000
worked where I kind of see more evidence

3102
02:07:12,910 --> 02:07:10,820
is the holographic projections if you

3103
02:07:17,530 --> 02:07:12,920
would call them that or more playing

3104
02:07:19,899 --> 02:07:17,540
into a stealth technology role more of a

3105
02:07:22,899 --> 02:07:19,909
cloaking correct yeah in regards to a

3106
02:07:24,910 --> 02:07:22,909
holographic imaging in a sky or you know

3107
02:07:26,379 --> 02:07:24,920
making an event seem like it happened

3108
02:07:28,270 --> 02:07:26,389
and that even ties into some of the

3109
02:07:29,890 --> 02:07:28,280
conspiracy theories about 9/11 by the

3110
02:07:32,050 --> 02:07:29,900
way gene I don't know if you're a

3111
02:07:33,370 --> 02:07:32,060
proponent of this story or not but you

3112
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:33,380
know there's there's a lot of theory

3113
02:07:37,390 --> 02:07:35,210
that the planes weren't really there

3114
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:37,400
that obviously the towers were brought

3115
02:07:41,770 --> 02:07:39,520
down by explosives and the planes were

3116
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:41,780
projected in the sky to make it seem

3117
02:07:45,700 --> 02:07:44,000
like they were physically there and the

3118
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:45,710
big engine that they found on Chambers

3119
02:07:52,270 --> 02:07:50,290
Street exactly I think me with facts

3120
02:07:54,490 --> 02:07:52,280
don't bother me with the facts my

3121
02:07:57,070 --> 02:07:54,500
thought my mind is made up that type of

3122
02:07:59,890 --> 02:07:57,080
technology I don't see any evidence of

3123
02:08:01,450 --> 02:07:59,900
it but DARPA does some crazy project the

3124
02:08:03,729 --> 02:08:01,460
Defense Advanced Research Projects

3125
02:08:05,859 --> 02:08:03,739
Agency or DARPA they do some crazy

3126
02:08:07,930 --> 02:08:05,869
projects and if they had something like

3127
02:08:09,310 --> 02:08:07,940
that to really project something in the

3128
02:08:11,470 --> 02:08:09,320
sky and make you think that it's there

3129
02:08:12,939 --> 02:08:11,480
although I don't see evidence of it it

3130
02:08:14,439 --> 02:08:12,949
wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

3131
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:14,449
some of the most recent stuff that's

3132
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:16,010
come out of DARPA and some of the

3133
02:08:18,530 --> 02:08:17,840
advanced technology are the next

3134
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:18,540
generation

3135
02:08:22,220 --> 02:08:20,370
groans you're not talking about

3136
02:08:23,870 --> 02:08:22,230
something the size of your car anymore

3137
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:23,880
you're not talking about something the

3138
02:08:26,930 --> 02:08:25,650
size of a suitcase you're talking about

3139
02:08:29,570 --> 02:08:26,940
stuff that could be the size of a

3140
02:08:32,900 --> 02:08:29,580
mosquito or a cockroach and they're

3141
02:08:36,410 --> 02:08:32,910
developing these cyber insects equipped

3142
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:36,420
with GPS cameras and surveillance

3143
02:08:41,390 --> 02:08:38,970
equipment they can literally fly into

3144
02:08:43,790 --> 02:08:41,400
anywhere and you may see a fly on the

3145
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:43,800
wall and try and swat it with your paper

3146
02:08:48,410 --> 02:08:46,050
and on the other end of it is a little

3147
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:48,420
mini satellite remote control antenna

3148
02:08:52,550 --> 02:08:50,850
that goes to the operator and he flies

3149
02:08:54,260 --> 02:08:52,560
away and you're just annoyed thinking

3150
02:08:56,690 --> 02:08:54,270
that it's just an annoying buzzing fly

3151
02:08:59,090 --> 02:08:56,700
when in reality it is a mini drone

3152
02:09:01,730 --> 02:08:59,100
watching you in your living room or in

3153
02:09:03,890 --> 02:09:01,740
your office or spying on some foreign

3154
02:09:05,900 --> 02:09:03,900
leader so that's the technology that's

3155
02:09:07,550 --> 02:09:05,910
coming out now and you look at that and

3156
02:09:09,590 --> 02:09:07,560
you go wow if that's what they're

3157
02:09:12,020 --> 02:09:09,600
telling us that's what they're admitting

3158
02:09:13,790 --> 02:09:12,030
how long has it been operational yeah

3159
02:09:16,130 --> 02:09:13,800
and on top of that what did they have

3160
02:09:18,740 --> 02:09:16,140
that they're not telling us and so I'm

3161
02:09:20,750 --> 02:09:18,750
always fascinated by by those types of

3162
02:09:23,780 --> 02:09:20,760
stories because sometimes it's not the

3163
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:23,790
story itself it's what the story implies

3164
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,730
good answer well this is another

3165
02:09:31,130 --> 02:09:28,800
question for you do you have any

3166
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:31,140
interest in non UFO paranormal subjects

3167
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:34,410
such such as cryptozoological creatures

3168
02:09:37,250 --> 02:09:36,480
ghost hauntings high strangeness events

3169
02:09:39,380 --> 02:09:37,260
that sort of thing

3170
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:39,390
we've talked a little bit about the more

3171
02:09:43,610 --> 02:09:41,250
conspiracy tinged subjects how about

3172
02:09:44,690 --> 02:09:43,620
paranormal subject and you only have 30

3173
02:09:47,150 --> 02:09:44,700
seconds to answer

3174
02:09:50,890 --> 02:09:47,160
Wow that sums it up yes I'm fascinated

3175
02:09:53,030 --> 02:09:50,900
by it but I have to put a period on that

3176
02:09:54,500 --> 02:09:53,040
absolutely when it comes to government

3177
02:09:56,330 --> 02:09:54,510
documents no too quickly sum it up

3178
02:09:58,160 --> 02:09:56,340
they're very hard to find when you get

3179
02:10:00,530 --> 02:09:58,170
into those fringe elements of the

3180
02:10:03,170 --> 02:10:00,540
paranormal but interestingly enough even

3181
02:10:05,420 --> 02:10:03,180
on spontaneous human combustion the FBI

3182
02:10:07,610 --> 02:10:05,430
has a file on it so never cease to be

3183
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:07,620
I've never ceased to be amazed about

3184
02:10:11,810 --> 02:10:10,170
what they really have in their archive I

3185
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:11,820
wondering after all these years Cris

3186
02:10:17,660 --> 02:10:15,210
what files the FBI and CIA have about us

3187
02:10:19,130 --> 02:10:17,670
John Greenwald jr. joining gene and

3188
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:19,140
Chris you're in the

3189
02:10:23,650 --> 02:10:28,360
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our door and were in and out of our

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arrived in about twenty minutes but they

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were long gone with our TV jewelry and

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my guns

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I kept thinking what if my family had

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been home the police officer said that

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[Music]

3294
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consider the conspiracy here Jean

3295
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Steinberg Chris O'Brien studying

3296
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paranormal stuff for many many years

3297
02:15:08,220 --> 02:15:05,470
longer than John Greenwald jr. has been

3298
02:15:10,650 --> 02:15:08,230
alive I'm sure he realizes that he's the

3299
02:15:12,240 --> 02:15:10,660
young whippersnapper amongst us here you

3300
02:15:15,540 --> 02:15:12,250
wonder what the government knows about

3301
02:15:18,510 --> 02:15:15,550
us if they're watching you Jean they

3302
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must be awful bored they must be awfully

3303
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:23,710
desperate how do we get more people from

3304
02:15:28,410 --> 02:15:26,170
your generation in younger to get

3305
02:15:30,900 --> 02:15:28,420
interested to the extent in these

3306
02:15:33,480 --> 02:15:30,910
subjects that you have to really do the

3307
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heavy lifting slog away in the trenches

3308
02:15:38,550 --> 02:15:35,890
file these requests get out in the field

3309
02:15:40,740 --> 02:15:38,560
possibly and investigate what can we do

3310
02:15:43,410 --> 02:15:40,750
the interest people in young people in

3311
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:43,420
somehow get them to not be jaded and

3312
02:15:46,830 --> 02:15:45,130
totally accepting of all these subjects

3313
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:46,840
and really want to find out more you

3314
02:15:50,220 --> 02:15:48,490
know it's funny as I remember being

3315
02:15:53,220 --> 02:15:50,230
asked that when I was much younger and

3316
02:15:55,290 --> 02:15:53,230
there was no younger generation you said

3317
02:15:56,940 --> 02:15:55,300
and younger now I'm at that point where

3318
02:15:59,370 --> 02:15:56,950
you have to have that in there I'm

3319
02:16:02,670 --> 02:15:59,380
feeling old but to answer your question

3320
02:16:04,830 --> 02:16:02,680
I would say that this topic is very

3321
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serious it really is it's very deep and

3322
02:16:08,250 --> 02:16:06,760
it's a lot of fun and when you add all

3323
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that together I think anybody would

3324
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:10,630
naturally be interested in it but you

3325
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got to look at what the young generation

3326
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you know my generation and the

3327
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generation younger than I am what are

3328
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they seeing and they're seeing number

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one they're seeing these amazing

3330
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science-fiction flicks they're seeing

3331
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these amazing CGI capabilities so

3332
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immediately that generation is being

3333
02:16:33,419 --> 02:16:29,710
grown up that it's all fake now you add

3334
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that into the fact that it's a joke to

3335
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:35,679
most media outlets to deal with the

3336
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:37,690
topic if they deal with it at all then

3337
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:39,490
it becomes this joke so now you have

3338
02:16:46,410 --> 02:16:42,610
this stereotype and this kind of aura

3339
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:46,420
around the topic that oh it's all fake

3340
02:16:51,900 --> 02:16:49,330
all they're all they're all crazy and

3341
02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:51,910
that's just something that tinfoil hat

3342
02:16:56,700 --> 02:16:53,950
wearing people sorry

3343
02:16:58,440 --> 02:16:56,710
motivating it's not very motivating and

3344
02:17:01,470 --> 02:16:58,450
so I think that we need to try and

3345
02:17:03,930 --> 02:17:01,480
redefine that that we need to try and

3346
02:17:06,450 --> 02:17:03,940
get out there and say look there is some

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fascinating material that you

3348
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see and proof for yourself you don't

3349
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have to believe gene you don't have to

3350
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believe Chris you don't have to believe

3351
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:12,639
John you don't have to believe any of us

3352
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if you took 20 minutes and looked at the

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real evidence that's out there and and

3354
02:17:23,219 --> 02:17:21,069
genuinely kept an open mind I think it

3355
02:17:26,129 --> 02:17:23,229
would it would grab anybody I truly do

3356
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:26,139
but in this day and age that's getting

3357
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more and more difficult because when you

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go on the internet and you google you fo

3359
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and you know you come with up of 37

3360
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trillion websites how many of them have

3361
02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:37,809
that real viable information there's a

3362
02:17:41,580 --> 02:17:39,460
lot of cases and there's a lot of people

3363
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:41,590
out there that and I won't name anybody

3364
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:43,120
in particular but there's a lot of

3365
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:44,649
people out there that sometimes give

3366
02:17:49,530 --> 02:17:47,290
this topic a bad name that they throw

3367
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whatever they can out there to sell a

3368
02:17:56,009 --> 02:17:53,620
book or to sell or access to a website

3369
02:17:58,320 --> 02:17:56,019
or or so on and so forth all to

3370
02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:58,330
disappear like 12 months later and then

3371
02:18:02,429 --> 02:18:00,399
never be to be seen again or it comes

3372
02:18:05,459 --> 02:18:02,439
out that it's the biggest hoax of

3373
02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:05,469
mankind and they put their life behind

3374
02:18:09,660 --> 02:18:07,870
it and they go yeah well I kind of knew

3375
02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:09,670
that but how about this one this is the

3376
02:18:14,009 --> 02:18:11,469
new one and I think that kind of stuff

3377
02:18:16,530 --> 02:18:14,019
really gives us field a bad name that I

3378
02:18:18,450 --> 02:18:16,540
think we need to work together and not

3379
02:18:19,439 --> 02:18:18,460
against each other I don't I don't I

3380
02:18:21,689 --> 02:18:19,449
don't want to make it seem I'm on a

3381
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:21,699
soapbox but I think that this big they

3382
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:24,160
call it the UFO community for a reason

3383
02:18:29,939 --> 02:18:26,889
and I think that a lot of people are

3384
02:18:31,469 --> 02:18:29,949
missing that community word that I it's

3385
02:18:34,049 --> 02:18:31,479
not about the sharing of knowledge

3386
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:34,059
anymore it's about who can sell the most

3387
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:36,130
I think that that's that's really an

3388
02:18:40,379 --> 02:18:38,620
unfortunate trait that is becoming more

3389
02:18:42,089 --> 02:18:40,389
and more prevalent and I don't want to

3390
02:18:45,150 --> 02:18:42,099
seem like Negative Nancy please don't

3391
02:18:46,589 --> 02:18:45,160
get me wrong because present present

3392
02:18:49,169 --> 02:18:46,599
company included

3393
02:18:51,419 --> 02:18:49,179
I would say there are amazing people in

3394
02:18:53,070 --> 02:18:51,429
this field that care about the

3395
02:18:54,990 --> 02:18:53,080
information that's out there they care

3396
02:18:57,479 --> 02:18:55,000
about what they put their name behind

3397
02:18:59,939 --> 02:18:57,489
and I think that we need more of that

3398
02:19:01,919 --> 02:18:59,949
because I think that will encourage and

3399
02:19:04,410 --> 02:19:01,929
entice more people to get involved but

3400
02:19:04,889 --> 02:19:04,420
you know it's it's a tricky question to

3401
02:19:07,229 --> 02:19:04,899
answer

3402
02:19:09,570 --> 02:19:07,239
it really is and it's a different

3403
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:09,580
difficult problem to solve you know I

3404
02:19:14,429 --> 02:19:11,410
think if people think they could earn

3405
02:19:18,299 --> 02:19:14,439
money from UFO research except for a

3406
02:19:18,849 --> 02:19:18,309
very small number of exceptions it never

3407
02:19:21,339 --> 02:19:18,859
happens

3408
02:19:24,519 --> 02:19:21,349
no it doesn't that can't be a motivating

3409
02:19:26,229 --> 02:19:24,529
factor because you doomed if it is yeah

3410
02:19:27,909 --> 02:19:26,239
you really are in gene I'm sure you've

3411
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:27,919
seen a lot of this and the years you've

3412
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:28,969
been doing the pair cows have been

3413
02:19:33,489 --> 02:19:31,519
involved in kind of the internet world

3414
02:19:37,269 --> 02:19:33,499
of this as I have been

3415
02:19:40,779 --> 02:19:37,279
but in 16 years I have seen so many come

3416
02:19:42,519 --> 02:19:40,789
up and disappear so many try and sell

3417
02:19:45,339 --> 02:19:42,529
stuff and disappear so many websites

3418
02:19:47,169 --> 02:19:45,349
that say send me money and disappear and

3419
02:19:49,149 --> 02:19:47,179
it's happened time and time again and

3420
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:49,159
that's what always scares me is you know

3421
02:19:52,659 --> 02:19:50,810
how many of these do we have to go

3422
02:19:54,609 --> 02:19:52,669
through people that have that smoking

3423
02:19:56,739 --> 02:19:54,619
gun going back to that question you

3424
02:19:58,960 --> 02:19:56,749
asked me Chris what's the smoking gun

3425
02:20:00,939 --> 02:19:58,970
well to me in my opinion it's not there

3426
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:00,949
but when that person comes out and says

3427
02:20:06,040 --> 02:20:04,010
we have the smoking gun but you got to

3428
02:20:07,779 --> 02:20:06,050
pay X amount to get in to see it or you

3429
02:20:10,149 --> 02:20:07,789
gotta pay X amount to buy it to look at

3430
02:20:12,849 --> 02:20:10,159
this or whatever that scares me to death

3431
02:20:14,349 --> 02:20:12,859
because you will never become that

3432
02:20:17,710 --> 02:20:14,359
millionaire you think you're gonna be

3433
02:20:21,250 --> 02:20:17,720
hey look I've got a book myself if I'm

3434
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:21,260
not trashing authors it's not about that

3435
02:20:26,949 --> 02:20:23,600
my point though is there are a select

3436
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:26,959
few that that is their only intent and

3437
02:20:33,369 --> 02:20:30,319
with this topic the volume just isn't

3438
02:20:35,229 --> 02:20:33,379
there the in mass bestseller on the New

3439
02:20:40,809 --> 02:20:35,239
York Times number-one bestseller list is

3440
02:20:42,869 --> 02:20:40,819
not going to happen for a UFO book you

3441
02:20:45,639 --> 02:20:42,879
know I mean there are some exceptions

3442
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:45,649
but there's reasons there are exceptions

3443
02:20:50,109 --> 02:20:48,560
to the rule which I won't get into but

3444
02:20:52,269 --> 02:20:50,119
for the most part that's just not going

3445
02:20:54,219 --> 02:20:52,279
to happen so I think we in short we need

3446
02:20:57,580 --> 02:20:54,229
to work together we need to come

3447
02:21:00,159 --> 02:20:57,590
together we need to re re redefine what

3448
02:21:02,830 --> 02:21:00,169
the UFO community really is and start

3449
02:21:04,569 --> 02:21:02,840
reaching out and and start getting out

3450
02:21:07,540 --> 02:21:04,579
there and it's something that I've love

3451
02:21:10,019 --> 02:21:07,550
to work with organizations with MUFON

3452
02:21:12,909 --> 02:21:10,029
and Beyond MUFON about reaching out to

3453
02:21:14,529 --> 02:21:12,919
universities colleges high schools I've

3454
02:21:17,409 --> 02:21:14,539
I've been very lucky I've been able to

3455
02:21:19,960 --> 02:21:17,419
do quite a few lectures in the last 16

3456
02:21:21,790 --> 02:21:19,970
years and I've been very lucky to do

3457
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:21,800
lectures to high school students to

3458
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:24,770
college students we did a presentation

3459
02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:27,680
of one hour to I'm sorry a two hour

3460
02:21:32,500 --> 02:21:29,449
block where people at Six Flags Magic

3461
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:32,510
Mountain if they wanted to come over and

3462
02:21:36,460 --> 02:21:34,160
a few minutes and ask questions I was

3463
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,470
able to you know entice quite a few

3464
02:21:40,900 --> 02:21:38,240
people to come over and take part in

3465
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:40,910
that about how neat yeah and I it was

3466
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:42,770
for free I didn't get paid for it you

3467
02:21:45,580 --> 02:21:44,450
know and I've told them a million times

3468
02:21:47,530 --> 02:21:45,590
if anybody's listening you want to

3469
02:21:49,780 --> 02:21:47,540
organize something like that or help me

3470
02:21:52,750 --> 02:21:49,790
organize that I look you don't need to

3471
02:21:55,210 --> 02:21:52,760
pay me I would reach out and I love to

3472
02:21:56,679 --> 02:21:55,220
lecture about this topic and and as you

3473
02:21:58,719 --> 02:21:56,689
can probably tell for the last almost

3474
02:22:02,889 --> 02:21:58,729
two hours usually don't shut up about it

3475
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,899
so I love I love it very much it's been

3476
02:22:07,540 --> 02:22:04,880
a huge part of my life and if I could

3477
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:07,550
you know motivate and you know one two

3478
02:22:11,469 --> 02:22:09,290
or a hundred other people to get

3479
02:22:13,870 --> 02:22:11,479
involved hey I'm all for it and I think

3480
02:22:16,030 --> 02:22:13,880
we need more of that out there boy I'll

3481
02:22:17,710 --> 02:22:16,040
say we could use at least a dozen of you

3482
02:22:20,410 --> 02:22:17,720
out there you need to get your evil twin

3483
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:20,420
and all its got doppelgangers together

3484
02:22:25,809 --> 02:22:23,450
and create the Greenwald team and then

3485
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:25,819
we could form you out to all sorts of

3486
02:22:30,219 --> 02:22:27,700
different organizations countries and

3487
02:22:31,630 --> 02:22:30,229
places on the planet boy we could sure

3488
02:22:33,519 --> 02:22:31,640
use a lot more folks like you John

3489
02:22:35,290 --> 02:22:33,529
really my hat's off to have been one of

3490
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:35,300
your biggest fans for a long time

3491
02:22:40,300 --> 02:22:38,210
I really admire your tenacity the way

3492
02:22:41,950 --> 02:22:40,310
you've been able to you know just like a

3493
02:22:44,290 --> 02:22:41,960
magician pull some of these documents

3494
02:22:45,730 --> 02:22:44,300
out that the people you know have been

3495
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:45,740
trying to get for years in some cases

3496
02:22:51,790 --> 02:22:48,890
and you've been able to to get them your

3497
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:51,800
you've made inroads with all the movers

3498
02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:53,210
and shakers in the field you're very

3499
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:55,490
well respected and and for good reason

3500
02:22:59,530 --> 02:22:57,439
and it's been a real pleasure having you

3501
02:23:01,000 --> 02:22:59,540
on the pair of cast and I'm really

3502
02:23:03,370 --> 02:23:01,010
looking forward to uh spending a little

3503
02:23:06,099 --> 02:23:03,380
time with you I guess this weekend at

3504
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:06,109
the at the UFO Congress you know it may

3505
02:23:10,210 --> 02:23:07,760
have actually happened we're talking in

3506
02:23:11,530 --> 02:23:10,220
the past tense and we also have to thank

3507
02:23:13,840 --> 02:23:11,540
our listeners and we have another

3508
02:23:16,450 --> 02:23:13,850
segment left all the listeners who pose

3509
02:23:18,280 --> 02:23:16,460
some excellent questions of our guest

3510
02:23:20,019 --> 02:23:18,290
John Greenwald and let me tell you how

3511
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:20,029
it works before we get to our final

3512
02:23:25,480 --> 02:23:23,210
segment that is we have a place where

3513
02:23:28,540 --> 02:23:25,490
you can gather called the power cast

3514
02:23:31,210 --> 02:23:28,550
community forums at forum dot ^ cast com

3515
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:31,220
forum dot the power cast calm and when

3516
02:23:36,429 --> 02:23:33,130
we have enough warning and we actually

3517
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:36,439
posted the thread the topic about John

3518
02:23:41,019 --> 02:23:39,050
Greenwald's encounters with the power

3519
02:23:43,630 --> 02:23:41,029
cast about three weeks ago three and a

3520
02:23:46,269 --> 02:23:43,640
half weeks ago we posed

3521
02:23:48,370 --> 02:23:46,279
a forum thread in something called the

3522
02:23:49,780 --> 02:23:48,380
question Bank and there you're free to

3523
02:23:52,149 --> 02:23:49,790
ask whatever questions you want

3524
02:23:53,620 --> 02:23:52,159
sometimes you get so many questions we

3525
02:23:55,630 --> 02:23:53,630
don't have a chance to ask them or

3526
02:23:57,219 --> 02:23:55,640
they're already answered by the guests

3527
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:57,229
in the course of general conversation

3528
02:24:00,790 --> 02:23:59,120
here we've got something like two dozen

3529
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:00,800
questions don't know if we have many

3530
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:04,010
left but the point being that this is

3531
02:24:08,769 --> 02:24:06,319
the way we like to interact with our

3532
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:08,779
guests and it's more predictable I think

3533
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than just taking phone calls where you

3534
02:24:13,090 --> 02:24:11,989
can get pretty good phone calls and

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sometimes you get phone calls from

3536
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:15,529
people who have an agenda you never know

3537
02:24:26,460 --> 02:24:17,600
John Greenwald jr. joining Jean and

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02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:28,660
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and you're listening to the podcast the

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gold standard of normal radio with Jean

3631
02:29:01,030 --> 02:28:58,040
and Chris and the power cast john

3632
02:29:03,340 --> 02:29:01,040
greenwald jr he has the black fault at

3633
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the black vault comm just check the side

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out you'll see what's going on Chris any

3635
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:09,520
more questions in the hopper you know

3636
02:29:14,110 --> 02:29:12,290
believe it or not Jane I think I've I've

3637
02:29:15,220 --> 02:29:14,120
pretty much gone through all the ones

3638
02:29:16,510 --> 02:29:15,230
that are pertinent there are some

3639
02:29:18,390 --> 02:29:16,520
questions that he's already answered

3640
02:29:22,030 --> 02:29:18,400
that we don't need to go back over but

3641
02:29:24,460 --> 02:29:22,040
but but John what you know what what is

3642
02:29:26,860 --> 02:29:24,470
on your radar I know you have your own

3643
02:29:28,930 --> 02:29:26,870
radio show you're doing an incredible

3644
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:28,940
amount of work now and quality work I

3645
02:29:34,450 --> 02:29:31,850
might add in Hollywood helping take

3646
02:29:36,670 --> 02:29:34,460
these neophytes just out of film school

3647
02:29:39,130 --> 02:29:36,680
and kind of training them giving someone

3648
02:29:41,140 --> 02:29:39,140
on the on-the-job training about this

3649
02:29:44,440 --> 02:29:41,150
subject area where do you see the

3650
02:29:46,990 --> 02:29:44,450
media's role developing in this subject

3651
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:47,000
matter I personally feel that the

3652
02:29:52,030 --> 02:29:49,250
entertainment side of it has been

3653
02:29:53,710 --> 02:29:52,040
emphasized in the past ten years or so I

3654
02:29:57,520 --> 02:29:53,720
think a little bit too much with the

3655
02:30:00,370 --> 02:29:57,530
reality style programming what do you

3656
02:30:03,160 --> 02:30:00,380
see as an anecdote for cliff notes

3657
02:30:06,310 --> 02:30:03,170
versions and you know pop culture

3658
02:30:09,610 --> 02:30:06,320
programming I really do like the the

3659
02:30:10,990 --> 02:30:09,620
unsealed shows as I said at the top of

3660
02:30:12,610 --> 02:30:11,000
the show I think that there's a lot of

3661
02:30:15,940 --> 02:30:12,620
good information that's coming out I

3662
02:30:18,310 --> 02:30:15,950
really like the Battle of LA show

3663
02:30:21,160 --> 02:30:18,320
episode I learned some interesting

3664
02:30:25,420 --> 02:30:21,170
things that I didn't know every show has

3665
02:30:29,140 --> 02:30:25,430
some nice pearls of wisdom and so if you

3666
02:30:31,540 --> 02:30:29,150
saw your ideal program covering these

3667
02:30:33,580 --> 02:30:31,550
subject matters how would you change the

3668
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:33,590
existing paradigm in Hollywood and what

3669
02:30:37,060 --> 02:30:34,610
would you do differently

3670
02:30:40,420 --> 02:30:37,070
I think that the paradigm in Hollywood

3671
02:30:43,510 --> 02:30:40,430
has really gone towards that reality TV

3672
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:43,520
span team of people going out

3673
02:30:47,620 --> 02:30:45,410
investigating UFOs

3674
02:30:52,450 --> 02:30:47,630
now even though UFOs are fascinating

3675
02:30:54,190 --> 02:30:52,460
UFOs are interesting let's face it if

3676
02:30:56,980 --> 02:30:54,200
you've been out in the field a lot of

3677
02:30:59,110 --> 02:30:56,990
it's not all that exciting you know you

3678
02:31:02,650 --> 02:30:59,120
and and television has a knack for

3679
02:31:04,511 --> 02:31:02,660
needing that excitement and making that

3680
02:31:05,591 --> 02:31:04,521
excitement and you see that in some of

3681
02:31:08,890 --> 02:31:05,601
these shows that are out there where you

3682
02:31:11,110 --> 02:31:08,900
go oh come on you know how how hokey can

3683
02:31:12,190 --> 02:31:11,120
you really get when you really look at

3684
02:31:13,660 --> 02:31:12,200
what they're doing or what they're

3685
02:31:16,330 --> 02:31:13,670
saying and so on and again I'm not

3686
02:31:18,250 --> 02:31:16,340
saying any show in particular but that's

3687
02:31:19,870 --> 02:31:18,260
true that's true and quite a few of

3688
02:31:22,390 --> 02:31:19,880
these genres whether they be ghost

3689
02:31:25,720 --> 02:31:22,400
hunting shows UFO hunting shows you know

3690
02:31:28,841 --> 02:31:25,730
even just silly b-list celebrity shows

3691
02:31:30,190 --> 02:31:28,851
that you need that element you got to

3692
02:31:32,140 --> 02:31:30,200
get away from that that's what that's

3693
02:31:35,740 --> 02:31:32,150
what the future to me especially the

3694
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:35,750
lipstick cans in the face exactly like

3695
02:31:39,671 --> 02:31:38,090
there's some people and and I will put

3696
02:31:42,671 --> 02:31:39,681
my name at the top of the list that

3697
02:31:45,580 --> 02:31:42,681
shouldn't be shot that close up we

3698
02:31:47,230 --> 02:31:45,590
shouldn't see John Greenwald's pores in

3699
02:31:49,450 --> 02:31:47,240
his face we just shouldn't and

3700
02:31:51,940 --> 02:31:49,460
unfortunately that's what we're doing on

3701
02:31:54,580 --> 02:31:51,950
some of these shows and I think what we

3702
02:31:57,280 --> 02:31:54,590
need to do is go back to that non

3703
02:31:58,780 --> 02:31:57,290
fiction traditional documentary find a

3704
02:32:00,520 --> 02:31:58,790
way to make that exciting because the

3705
02:32:03,070 --> 02:32:00,530
stories themselves they truly are

3706
02:32:04,690 --> 02:32:03,080
exciting and if you know how to produce

3707
02:32:06,970 --> 02:32:04,700
television you know you have a great

3708
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:06,980
director you know how to direct you can

3709
02:32:12,460 --> 02:32:10,130
make these shows what the audience wants

3710
02:32:14,290 --> 02:32:12,470
and I think that and this is my personal

3711
02:32:16,120 --> 02:32:14,300
opinion don't have any insider knowledge

3712
02:32:19,150 --> 02:32:16,130
but I think the reason why some of these

3713
02:32:21,761 --> 02:32:19,160
paranormal / reality shows rate very

3714
02:32:24,220 --> 02:32:21,771
well is because while the topic is hot

3715
02:32:26,801 --> 02:32:24,230
but they have nothing else to watch

3716
02:32:28,660 --> 02:32:26,811
there's no other paranormal show that

3717
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:28,670
doesn't write they all have the same

3718
02:32:32,980 --> 02:32:31,280
cookie cutter formula and if you really

3719
02:32:34,690 --> 02:32:32,990
kind of take a step back and look at all

3720
02:32:37,301 --> 02:32:34,700
the different types of shows again

3721
02:32:39,970 --> 02:32:37,311
whether if he ghosts UFOs hunting

3722
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:39,980
Bigfoot whatever what is it you've got

3723
02:32:43,421 --> 02:32:41,690
certain people from certain walks of

3724
02:32:46,720 --> 02:32:43,431
life going out as a team of people

3725
02:32:49,301 --> 02:32:46,730
investigating cases it's the same cookie

3726
02:32:52,301 --> 02:32:49,311
cutter it's the same cookie cutter

3727
02:32:54,250 --> 02:32:52,311
technique I think that day is done I

3728
02:32:56,381 --> 02:32:54,260
think that they write well because

3729
02:32:58,511 --> 02:32:56,391
there's no other show that is better

3730
02:33:00,520 --> 02:32:58,521
that's out there for them to watch they

3731
02:33:02,530 --> 02:33:00,530
don't have a sticking power I mean how

3732
02:33:04,210 --> 02:33:02,540
many times can you see people banging on

3733
02:33:05,659 --> 02:33:04,220
trees and then and then jumping in the

3734
02:33:08,659 --> 02:33:05,669
air saying did you hear that

3735
02:33:11,300 --> 02:33:08,669
like Finding Bigfoot you know one show

3736
02:33:12,649 --> 02:33:11,310
that you were involved in that I really

3737
02:33:13,609 --> 02:33:12,659
appreciate it and I think was very

3738
02:33:17,330 --> 02:33:13,619
underrated

3739
02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:17,340
for its run was UFO FILES I remember the

3740
02:33:21,319 --> 02:33:19,050
show that you helped on colores the

3741
02:33:23,929 --> 02:33:21,329
colores cases in the late 70s early 80s

3742
02:33:25,880 --> 02:33:23,939
down in Brazil I believe you were

3743
02:33:27,889 --> 02:33:25,890
involved in some of the research on that

3744
02:33:30,559 --> 02:33:27,899
program that was fascinating we need

3745
02:33:32,330 --> 02:33:30,569
more more shows that really dive into

3746
02:33:34,969 --> 02:33:32,340
some of the the little of the

3747
02:33:36,979 --> 02:33:34,979
lesser-known cases that could be really

3748
02:33:39,380 --> 02:33:36,989
important and compelling and could be

3749
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:39,390
inspirational for people to get you know

3750
02:33:43,119 --> 02:33:40,800
inspired to get more involved in

3751
02:33:45,859 --> 02:33:43,129
researching the subject for themselves

3752
02:33:47,929 --> 02:33:45,869
yeah I I agree the the cattle

3753
02:33:50,359 --> 02:33:47,939
mutilations program that I mentioned a

3754
02:33:52,010 --> 02:33:50,369
couple segments ago with the History

3755
02:33:54,619 --> 02:33:52,020
Channel that was part of the UFO FILES

3756
02:33:57,290 --> 02:33:54,629
series now I didn't work on 100% of all

3757
02:33:59,989 --> 02:33:57,300
the UFO FILES episodes but worked on I

3758
02:34:02,599 --> 02:33:59,999
believe 9 I was a producer writer

3759
02:34:05,420 --> 02:34:02,609
director I believe in 9 of them

3760
02:34:07,099 --> 02:34:05,430
I was able to see a lot working on those

3761
02:34:09,439 --> 02:34:07,109
shows we were able to accomplish a lot

3762
02:34:11,869 --> 02:34:09,449
and I think that that's really kind of

3763
02:34:13,819 --> 02:34:11,879
what we need to get back to if we're

3764
02:34:16,729 --> 02:34:13,829
trying to entice people to get involved

3765
02:34:19,340 --> 02:34:16,739
because when you look at the reality

3766
02:34:24,559 --> 02:34:19,350
spin to it not to not to beat a dead

3767
02:34:27,219 --> 02:34:24,569
horse when you look at that spin you you

3768
02:34:29,869 --> 02:34:27,229
kind of get this aura of its being

3769
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:29,879
television it's entertainment and it's

3770
02:34:35,300 --> 02:34:33,810
not real it's nothing that people should

3771
02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:35,310
get involved in because it's just these

3772
02:34:40,519 --> 02:34:37,890
four people and that's not true you know

3773
02:34:42,649 --> 02:34:40,529
what what reality show really invites

3774
02:34:44,540 --> 02:34:42,659
you to take part get out there and

3775
02:34:46,429 --> 02:34:44,550
investigate it yourself and I don't

3776
02:34:48,199 --> 02:34:46,439
think there are any out there it's all

3777
02:34:50,090 --> 02:34:48,209
about were the prime experts there's

3778
02:34:52,369 --> 02:34:50,100
only four of us or there's only three of

3779
02:34:53,989 --> 02:34:52,379
us and that's it no one else can do this

3780
02:34:55,819 --> 02:34:53,999
that's why we're on television and

3781
02:34:59,809 --> 02:34:55,829
you're not and I think that that's such

3782
02:35:02,000 --> 02:34:59,819
a bad uninviting aura around UFO and

3783
02:35:04,599 --> 02:35:02,010
paranormal research I think when you

3784
02:35:07,279 --> 02:35:04,609
have that traditional non fiction style

3785
02:35:09,979 --> 02:35:07,289
documentary style not boring and dragged

3786
02:35:11,989 --> 02:35:09,989
out but something very interesting and

3787
02:35:14,119 --> 02:35:11,999
done well and done properly

3788
02:35:16,550 --> 02:35:14,129
you see the people that are involved and

3789
02:35:18,120 --> 02:35:16,560
you go wow I wonder you know I wonder

3790
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:18,130
what else is out there and

3791
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:21,250
that entices people to get out there and

3792
02:35:25,770 --> 02:35:23,170
do their own research but in the reality

3793
02:35:27,990 --> 02:35:25,780
sense you kind of close it off and you

3794
02:35:29,580 --> 02:35:28,000
go well I went out there we our team

3795
02:35:31,290 --> 02:35:29,590
went out there we investigated this we

3796
02:35:33,630 --> 02:35:31,300
didn't find anything and if we can't

3797
02:35:35,370 --> 02:35:33,640
find anything neither can you

3798
02:35:37,500 --> 02:35:35,380
and then I kind of fall and that's it

3799
02:35:38,969 --> 02:35:37,510
and I think that that's you know that's

3800
02:35:41,190 --> 02:35:38,979
that's kind of a bad aura

3801
02:35:42,990 --> 02:35:41,200
again I'm not trashing all of them I was

3802
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:43,000
a producer on UFO Hunters I was in

3803
02:35:48,510 --> 02:35:44,010
season three

3804
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:48,520
III produced three other episodes and so

3805
02:35:52,860 --> 02:35:51,280
again I'm not knocking all of them but a

3806
02:35:56,010 --> 02:35:52,870
lot of them are like that and I think

3807
02:35:58,500 --> 02:35:56,020
that we have to really kind of in

3808
02:36:01,889 --> 02:35:58,510
television anyway redefine that and

3809
02:36:06,719 --> 02:36:01,899
until the executives get out of this

3810
02:36:08,700 --> 02:36:06,729
reality draw it's not gonna happen and I

3811
02:36:11,070 --> 02:36:08,710
hope it I hope it does happen I hope it

3812
02:36:13,950 --> 02:36:11,080
happens fairly quickly to what's gonna

3813
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:13,960
happen with the producers is that they

3814
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:16,450
will only make that decision with the

3815
02:36:21,540 --> 02:36:19,090
executives if the TV networks when the

3816
02:36:23,490 --> 02:36:21,550
ratings go down when we get sick and

3817
02:36:25,410 --> 02:36:23,500
tired of watching The Real Housewives of

3818
02:36:27,660 --> 02:36:25,420
podunk Oh whatever show they are I never

3819
02:36:31,620 --> 02:36:27,670
watched those things then we'll get back

3820
02:36:33,870 --> 02:36:31,630
to real reality TV not staged reality TV

3821
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:33,880
in the remaining minute or two left here

3822
02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:36,010
John Green Walt Jr tell our listeners

3823
02:36:40,139 --> 02:36:37,450
where they can get more information

3824
02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:40,149
about what you're all about and maybe

3825
02:36:42,830 --> 02:36:41,800
what projects you're going to be working

3826
02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:42,840
on in the future

3827
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:46,270
yeah absolutely so the black Volcom is

3828
02:36:50,670 --> 02:36:49,060
usually the best way to reach me I'm

3829
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:50,680
learning more and more every day people

3830
02:36:54,660 --> 02:36:52,570
think there is a team behind the black

3831
02:36:57,210 --> 02:36:54,670
vault I take that as a compliment but

3832
02:36:59,400 --> 02:36:57,220
the reality is it is only me so if you

3833
02:37:02,070 --> 02:36:59,410
click contact it goes right to me

3834
02:37:05,340 --> 02:37:02,080
there's no no middleman so if you've got

3835
02:37:07,620 --> 02:37:05,350
something to say or criticism phrase or

3836
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:07,630
want a dispro standby direction by all

3837
02:37:12,690 --> 02:37:10,570
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3838
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:12,700
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3839
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:14,560
this day and age so obviously Facebook

3840
02:37:18,570 --> 02:37:17,050
is one of the main ways and the social

3841
02:37:21,900 --> 02:37:18,580
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3842
02:37:23,910 --> 02:37:21,910
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3843
02:37:27,179 --> 02:37:23,920
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3844
02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:27,189
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3845
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:29,320
follow kind of what's up to date I've

3846
02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:31,270
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3847
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:31,850
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3848
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3849
02:37:39,580 --> 02:37:36,830
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3850
02:37:41,889 --> 02:37:39,590
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3851
02:37:44,380 --> 02:37:41,899
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3852
02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:44,390
on stuff but mostly what's truly

3853
02:37:49,269 --> 02:37:46,970
happening in the FOIA area and FOIA

3854
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:49,279
arena for me and the black vault

3855
02:37:54,219 --> 02:37:51,439
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3856
02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:54,229
John before we split that is is the

3857
02:38:00,210 --> 02:37:57,439
Obama administration easier or harder to

3858
02:38:03,189 --> 02:38:00,220
communicate with to get foi a documents

3859
02:38:06,130 --> 02:38:03,199
in my experience and this is documented

3860
02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:06,140
harder I've heard that I've heard that

3861
02:38:10,929 --> 02:38:08,210
Chris O'Brien where'd we find more of

3862
02:38:11,559 --> 02:38:10,939
your stuff well we live in a strange

3863
02:38:16,870 --> 02:38:11,569
planet

3864
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:16,880
and I've got some new videos up there

3865
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:19,520
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3866
02:38:24,460 --> 02:38:22,250
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3867
02:38:27,399 --> 02:38:24,470
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3868
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3869
02:38:32,080 --> 02:38:30,109
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3870
02:38:34,090 --> 02:38:32,090
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3871
02:38:36,219 --> 02:38:34,100
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3872
02:38:36,939 --> 02:38:36,229
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3873
02:38:39,070 --> 02:38:36,949
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3874
02:38:41,649 --> 02:38:39,080
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3875
02:38:43,389 --> 02:38:41,659
john greenwald of the black vault thank

3876
02:38:45,670 --> 02:38:43,399
you so much for joining us this week on

3877
02:38:47,260 --> 02:38:45,680
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3878
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3880
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